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    Re: WTS NIB Robinson arms XCR-L

    Hi all,

    Let me introduce myself (wouldn't want to get hammered for
    not doing that l. I'm a new forum member and am the
    guy who bought RWS's XCR.

    I'm really looking forward to it. I'm going to sell one of my
    AR's to help pay for it. I've spent so much time with AR's it'll
    be nice to try something different. And, with the stock folded,
    it'll fit nicely in my small bug-out pack as well.

    I know they say these piston rifles don't need to be cleaned, require less maintenance,
    and are even simpler that AR's. Should I believe that?


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    Welcome to the forum and XCR ownership!

    While that might be over-simplifying it, my short answer is: yes.

    You still have to clean your firearm (where's that video?!), but you're not dumping gas into the action, so it needs less attention. I used to be religious about cleaning my firearms after a day of shooting, but now with the XCR I just run a bore snake through it twice before I pack up for the day and I'm fine. I think I average 4 trips between cleanings now.

    Please make sure you read your manual and threads here on break-in and let us know your experiences! Pics are always a plus.
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    Re: WTS NIB Robinson arms XCR-L

    Welconme to the forum, to answer your question, Yes and no.

    They are a little simpler and more reliable than DI ARs, but still need cleaning and maintenance. Also get yourself a few spares or a spares kit as there is only one supplier, Robinson Arms, and supply can be patchy.

    Enjoy it.
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    Re: WTS NIB Robinson arms XCR-L

    Hi jneher. Like they said. You can certainly keep it running longer with a lot less attention than a DI rifle requires. You still want to clean it, but it's generally a lot easier when you do.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jneher View Post


    I know they say these piston rifles don't need to be cleaned, require less maintenance,
    and are even simpler that AR's. Should I believe that?

    IME they need to be cleaned a bit less often, but lubed as often as the AR (more or less). the gas adjustment can overcome some dirt and grime but it's just as easy to keep it lubed. I ran mine thru a infantry class this spring where we drug them thru grit and grime for four days and never cleaned or lubed mine. it was only on the last round of the last day where I saw some signs of needing lube or more gas (about 4 days of snow, mud, sand, grime and 500-700 rounds). it performed flawlessly for me during that class.

    best advice I can give is dont run it like an AR!! You need to learn it's new procedures and manual of arms. If you approach it like a totally new system, you'll have FAAR better luck than some here.

    it needs:
    -gas to run properly. (Almost ALL cycling failures indicate lack of gas)
    -lube
    -good mags
    -200 round break in= shoot, clean, tighten/locktite, lube. (and it will become even smoother and more reliable with more shooting)
    -locktite on all the bolts and screws except the barrel and gas block and checking of tightness every time you detail clean.
    -correct tightening of barrel nut
    -someone to love it and shoot it often.

    dont be afraid to ask questions. welcome and good luck!!

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    Hi again Jack-0

    Are those points you mentioned covered in the manual?

    gas to run properly. (Almost ALL cycling failures indicate lack of gas)

    gas setting you mean?

    -lube

    beyond oil. Grease? If so where?

    -good mags

    more sensitive to mags than an AR?

    -200 round break in= shoot, clean, tighten/locktite, lube. (and it will become even smoother and more reliable with more shooting)

    -locktite on all the bolts and screws except the barrel and gas block and checking of tightness every time you detail clean.

    Green or Red?

    -correct tightening of barrel nut

    covered in the manual?

    thanks,

    Jon

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    well, if i get any of these wrong the guys will correct me, so here goes...

    Quote Originally Posted by jneher View Post
    Hi again Jack-0

    Are those points you mentioned covered in the manual? [b]not sure havent read manual in over 4 years

    gas to run properly. (Almost ALL cycling failures indicate lack of gas)

    gas setting you mean? [b] Yes, the gas setting determines how much gas you get to the action

    -lube

    beyond oil. Grease? If so where? [b]this is a personal choice based on my experiences. I like grease because it does not creep and stays where you put it better than oil, thus lasts longer. I like to use it on the bolt locking lugs lugs and shaft primarily MD Labs makes a really good grease supposedly for firearms specifically. It's very expensive. I use Lithium grease or you could try some Amsoil synthetic polymeric off road grease #1, which is what I'm switching to. otherwise just good old fashioned premium synthetic motor oil of 10w40 or there-about will serve you well.

    -good mags

    more sensitive to mags than an AR? [b]no. just use mags that work and chuck those that dont. Pmags and HK are top notch. GI spec mags are OK too.

    -200 round break in= shoot, clean, tighten/locktite, lube. (and it will become even smoother and more reliable with more shooting)

    -locktite on all the bolts and screws except the barrel and gas block and checking of tightness every time you detail clean.

    Green or Red? [b]Blue locktite 242 IIRC

    -correct tightening of barrel nut

    covered in the manual? [b]yep should be. RA also has a nice series of videos that are well worth watching, on thier website

    thanks,

    Jon

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    Re: WTS NIB Robinson arms XCR-L

    I was successfull in reducing my break in to about 50 rounds by manually cycling the action about 300 times. Helps save on $$$ YMMV.

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    Re: WTS NIB Robinson arms XCR-L

    If you say so there buddy.... ???

    I'm glad you came along and figured that out............ :duh:
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    Good on you, Terra!

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