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    XCR Cold Weather Tests

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    So recently we had a couple weeks of -30F weather and I wanted to see how the XCR and AR behave in colder conditions.

    Test: Rifles left outside with ammo overnight (-35F) and tested the next day in -30F
    Firearm condition: XCR lubed approximately 300 rounds ago. AR lubed approximately 200 rounds ago. Neither cleaned since lube.

    First, optics and batteries. Holosun functioned fine (shake-awake), laser and lights all worked (x300s). The CR2032 on my 1-6x failed. The 1-6x couldn't be adjusted because the ring was frozen.

    Started with the XCR on gas setting 1. I had to use the forward assist to get the round into the chamber. It would stick right before going into battery (where the bolt lugs locked into the breech). On first round had an FTE, so went to gas 2 for the second round. Similar result. On the 3rd round went to gas 4 and it emptied the magazine and BHO worked on last round. bang bang bang. 62gr Federal OTM.

    With the AR meme pistol, I had to feed a round from the magazine, get it in the chamber, pull the magazine and let the bolt slam home to go into battery on the first 8-9 shots. Yeah you might have noticed the round would stick in the chamber allowing me to re-cycle the bolt. The magazine spring would put pressure on the bottom of the bolt, causing it to drag and be unable to feed the next round. FTFs until around 15 rounds into the mag, then it started running like a top. 147gr subsonic 300blk.


    The XCR on gas 4 in those conditions felt about the same as running it on gas 2 in warmer conditions. If the Unimags work out I'll be grabbing a 6.5G barrel and upgrading to the new gas blocks. If I had cleaned both rifles and shot them dry, I could probably run the XCR on gas 3 without issue. Really happy with these guns, XCR clearly doesn't care about cold given enough gas. Even with supersonic loads the AR would not have run, the bolt would stick hard after picking up a round.
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    The Type 3 gas blocks seem to be better sealing around machined surface on the bbl....IME, they seem like after converting from Type 1 block to Type 3, that they will cycle with lower gas settings. None of that is cold weather testing though.

    Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fachries View Post
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    So you've found that to be true as well?
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    I recently acquired a 9.5" 300 blk XCR pistol, mounted a UH-1 gen2 on it. Left it out overnight at -25F. Everything ran great with 147gr subs on gas setting 4 (type 3). It was the first mag through the pistol. Impressed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roflcopters View Post
    I recently acquired a 9.5" 300 blk XCR pistol, mounted a UH-1 gen2 on it. Left it out overnight at -25F. Everything ran great with 147gr subs on gas setting 4 (type 3). It was the first mag through the pistol. Impressed.
    Had an Alaskan complain about cold weather operation of semi-autos. I told him to look into the XCR from RobArms since it's got a good reputation in really cold weather. Posted the link to their site....his reply was that "Alaskans aren't made of money" and "No one can afford that type of expensive rifle in AK".

    So, you sir....must be super rich. Congratulations!
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    I mean, ARs are fairly sensitive to the cold. Which is why you clean all the lube off and run graphite. Zenitco has a titanium adjustable gas block that is very similar to the old XCR block. Less lube, more gas = running AR until it gets wet. Which is why the Canadians still use 303s/Tikka bolt guns in the arctic.

    My XCRs have run like tops even with regular oil lube in them. That metal gets cold though.
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    That's why when I'm in the attic hunting polar bears I always clean my XCR with kerosene and then lube it with freshly harpooned whale oil! Just kidding. By the way, cool test.
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