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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    I've always thought that Alex should have done an XCR in 7.62x51 first and 7.62x39 2nd. That would have totally cut the debate of XCR vs AR15 and taken on a whole new market that is pretty much untapped...The AK47 alternative, and ancient battle rifle alternative

    This is why I think it is very important to get the XCR-M out now. The SCAR-H is a year off best case scenario, as is the Masada, and even then, they have design elements that arent as appealing.





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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    I agree for the most part. The XCR-M definitely has some potential assuming the good development from the XCR-L makes it in as well. Particularly as a folding stock 7.62x51 battle rifle or hunting/pack rifle. It used to be that a small company would be quick and agile, but I suppose that's not always the case.

    I suspect the SCAR will be out later this year, to give FN a chance of selling some to recoup development costs prior to an AWB, which I suspect even McCain will introduce. SOCOM wants them but the US military in general is stubbornly sitting on the M4 platform. Lord knows why, perhaps it's because soldiers are afraid to tell the Generals the truth.

    Personally I like the Masada. It's is a really smart design concept. I really like the changeable lowers as it lets you use various magazines according to caliber choice. Given the issues C-Products is having with 7.62x39 magazines why not just go with AK originals? I also see no reason why uppers can't have new rails inserted as the originals wear out. All in all it's a really nice piece. Yes, it could do with a few tweaks to resolve possible issues, but so can the XCR. For example; A dust coverm and a fold down cocking handle similar to the L1A1 so it doesn't interfere with three point slings.


    Yes an XCR-M would be nice but after three years of waiting, for the M and the 7.62x39 XCR-L, plus upcomming attractions such as the SCAR and MASADA.............

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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    I don't know if using the ak mag is such a good idea. I have a sks-d and the mags though with practice are fairly easy to apply and remove just don't compare to the stanag mags. At the moment I have on order a XCR-L in 5.56x45 XCR-L in 7.62x39 and XCR-M in 7.62x51. Just hope the shipments get here before too long. ???
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    AK mags are very reliable. The curved shape allows clean passage of the follower and when you see Spetsnaz soldier doing pushups balancing their AKs on the magazines you'll realize how resilient they are.

    I must admit that I am looking forward to the XCR-M, despite the overly long wait, but have to concede that now competitors are likely I am not sure whether I will by one, or an aforementioned competitor.

    12 months ago, definately.

    Also given the likely ban I am looking to consolidate my collection with spare parts rather then new rifles that may have teething issues, as with the ban I do not want to be left with useless rifles if restricted parts fail.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    I know the Ak mags are resilent. I own 5 and they are tough. Toughest mags I own. But they are difficult to apply to the rifle and remove, especially if you are inexperienced. Stanag mags are easy to apply and remove in heated moments. User friendly and reliable minus the durability of the Ak mags thats all I was saying.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    That makes sense. I started with an L1A1 so a paddle release doesn't bother me. In fact i've seen some guys at bisley change mage quicker with paddle than button. It all comes down to training.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    Is there any for sure comfirmation on what the mags will be for this rifle. If they are the DPMS LR-308 mags I will have to order a bunch but they are rediculously expensive in Canada at $75 a pop.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    Supposedly DPMS, but I'm not pre-buying anything until we see it in metal. Too many broken promises.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    Ya I would like to buy a bunch now but I won't until it is actually posted on RobArms website that the DPMS mag is the one.
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    Re: Now the wait for the .308 XCR-M begins ...

    Well with the release of the 7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel this should mean Alex is going to put all his efforts into the XCR-M now. Hopefully we see a fully functional rifle shortly.
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