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    CAN WE GET A XCR HEAVY DISCUSSION

    I have never owned a .308 rifle and I was going to go for a DSA carbine. I now hear they are going to make a XCR in .308, anyone else know anything about this?

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    I named this board "XCR Heavy 7.62×51mm NATO (.308 Winchester)" since I don't know if it'll come out as a 7.62x51mm or a .308 Winchester. The calibers aren't exactly the same so if someone finds out for sure I'll rename the thread. (My understanding is that you can shoot a 7.62x51mm round in a .308 rifle but not the other way around.)
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    I've got a feeling that many manufacturers are starting to stray away from .308's because of recent and humongous price increase in ammo, I believe mostly due to surplus exhaustion from need in Iraq. Metal cost, dollar devaluation, the UN are "the other" factors, but manufacturers are working OT to supply the US and other governments. When that rush is over I see 5.56 hugely available and to some extent 308 but seeing how 308 ran dry pretty quick now shows what is in the future for 308. 6.8 military future is up in the air but it is one round that somebody somewhere is going to want in demand b/c it is currently the best option to convert anything AR like into a bigger caliber. Personally, if someone got off their duff and made quality 7.62x39 mags for AR wells they will make a killing.

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    I had no idea 7.62x51 and .308 where not one in the same. I guess you learn something every day.

    I understand the reluctance to put out a new rifle in a caliber that from what I understand is getting expensive to shoot. However, I am currently saving for a DSA carbine because while I might not get to shoot it as much, it would still be interesting to have the larger round.

    Of course if Robinson SAYS they will be offering it, well then I will just have to keep saving until they come out with it!

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    According to Wikipedia (most of the time they have good info):

    While the .308 Winchester and 7.62 × 51 mm cartridges are generally identical, there are minor differences in their case dimensions and chambering specifications that should be noted. The 7.62 × 51 mm is smaller by a few thousandths of an inch in some dimensions.[1] This can lead to excessive chamber pressures if a .308 Winchester cartridge is fired in a 7.62 × 51 mm chamber. However, the opposite should present no problems.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.308_Winchester
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    I broke down and bought a DSA FAL for the same reason. Given how hard it is for Robinson to produce the XCR in numbers to satisfy the demand I figured it would be awhile before they got around to a .308.

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    I got a DSA SA58 Para in 16" barrel. The DSA is a great rifle. I consider it the current XCR version for the 308. I also have a PTR91KP and have had M1A's and Hk91's before. I consider the SA58 (FALs) superior to the others as far as being the go to gun, although I think the Hk are sexier looking. But being sexy won't count in a life or death situation, right? If RA ever does come out w/a 308 (7.62x51) version I think that will be even a better gun. Although I liked my M1A'a they have passed their prime and the FAL, then Hk G3 were more advanced in their time. I've also had QC issues with my M1A's, twice I've had extractors fly down range on 2 different M1A's. Luckly I found the extractor and spring in the dirt both times. But as I have said the current price and availability of 308 ammo WILL impact any future 308 combat rifle being considered for production.

    I still plan to get an AR10. Wanna know why? I want to use it for deer hunting just so I can say I hunt with an AR.

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    Mine is a Para Congo with 18" barrel, extended extreme duty scope mount, full length rail interface handguard, and SAW grips, all Duracoated black. I may take it hunting with me this season just to say I did as well. Any ideas on the best source of short magazines?

    Speaking of magazines, I just picked up 20 Magpul plastic Pmags with the covers. Nice, although I haven't been to the range with them yet.

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    If RA does produce a .308 XCR I think that the FAL will be the rifle standard they will have to top. The FAL has so much going for it. It is a proven design with countless rounds fired in conflict. Parts are everywhere and they are readily available for the most part.
    You can’t have too much ammunition. Unless you are on fire or going swimming.

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    If/When they do, I hope they use DPMS/KAC .308 magazines.

    FAL mags would be nice too, if they can get them to work.

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