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    Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    This is a MUST READ article. All I can say is be sure to vote, we gun owners are in DEEP KIMSHI.

    http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/...44/1007/news01
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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    he has never made his views secret. He screwed Illinois the best he could.
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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    Did you read in the comments section that Obama lied about his citzenship and Philip J. Berg has filed a lawsuit in Pennsylvania about it. Lets hope this is true and he is ineligible to run for president.
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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    Wouldn't that be sweet!!!! I hope you are correct on that. :duh: ;D ;D ;D
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    I don't know guys. Over here we have the strictist rules in the nation, but I can still buy an XCR with 30 rd clip, semi auto pistol or 50 cal if I like. I just gotta register the weapon and not be a felon. No full autos, but come on. In the end, I can get what I want and the thief who steals my gun can be caught via my registered gun's serial number. Also, felons cannot purchase a firearm which lessens the chance of them killing me with one. i still can bear arms. As far as the control being used by the government to screw us, I think that is a problem that has more to it than just gun laws. Maybe more to do with the guys who pull the strings of the puppet (president). So getting a president w/out strings may be more important in the end. I love my guns, but it would be selfish to vote for someone just because of that one issue. Of course for some that may not be the only issue. Just my opinion.

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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    eluke, You must not have your TV on, or you are not listening. Obama & Friends want our guns, want to increase taxes to fund giveaway programs, and want to open our borders. (there are more but these are important to me.) These are three (3) MAJOR negitave changes. You going to vote Obama???
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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    I admit, I only wrote in response to the particular article that started the thread. You are right, I have not had tv much at all lately. I work in the mountains and am cut off for most of the week, no cell phones or tv! I need to get up to date. Although sometimes ignorance is bliss

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    Obama Lie ????? Boy thats a new one.

    TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

    Tuesday, May 27, 2008 **Obama's Not Exactlys


    Obama's Not Exactlys:

    1.) **Selma** March Got Me Born** - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.)

    2.) **Father Was A Goat Herder** - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.

    3.) **Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter** - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.

    4.) **My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom** - NOT EXACTLY, your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Oba ma, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to
    speak to Odinga on the phone. Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.

    5.) **My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian** - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.

    6.) **My Name is African Swahili** - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more....go to.....
    **http://www.arcadeathome.com/newsboy...6.25%25_African **

    7.) **I Never Practiced Islam** - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

    4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam''
    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=60559*

    8.) **My School In Indonesia Was Christian** - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to
    prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'

    9.) **I Was Fluent In Indonesian** - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language.

    10.) **Because I Lived In Indonesia** , I Have More Foreign Experience** - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.

    11.) **I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs** - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise), you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.

    12.) **I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion** - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.

    13.)**An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office** - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    14.)** A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life** - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.

    15.) **I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08** - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV, that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.

    16.) **Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate** - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.

    17.)** Oops, I Misvoted** - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.

    18.)** I Was A Professor Of Law** - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    19.) **I Was A Constitutional Lawyer** - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.

    20.)** Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill** - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it.

    21.)** The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass** - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.

    22.)** I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill** - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

    23.) **I Have Released My State Records** - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.

    24.)** I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess** - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.

    25.) **My Economics Bill Will Help America** - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

    26.) **I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois** - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

    27.)** I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year** - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

    28.) **No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA** - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

    29.)** I Am Tough On Terrorism** - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel .

    30.) **I Want All Votes To Count** - NOT EXACTLY, you said let the delegates decide.

    31.) **I Want Americans To Decide** - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time.

    32.) **I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate** - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

    33.) **I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics** - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you.

    34.) **I Don't Take PAC Money** - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.*

    35.)** I don't Have Lobbysists** - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

    36.) **My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad** - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon.

    37.)** I Have Always Been Against Iraq** - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

    38.) **I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care** - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it.

    39.) **My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp** - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russan army did the liberating.
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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    I just want to clarify a few points .I want to make it clear I not trying to be a smartass,I just want people who may not know,to have the facts.Regarding the quote from Eluke "I just gotta register the weapon and not be a felon. No full autos, but come on.In the end,I can get what I want and the thief who steals my gun can be caught via my registered gun's serial number".
    OK first unless your in a small handfull of states your not registering a firearm,you are doing a background check,which is not the same thing.Second if you honestly believe any criminal that steals a gun won't remove the serial number,Then I have a bridge I'll sell you,very cheap.
    Also the quote "Also, felons cannot purchase a firearm which lessens the chance of them killing me with one". That is not true either,felons can have others make straw purchase for them,or they can purchase them illegally.Just look at the small example of Washington D.C.Handguns have been illegal there since 1976,but has that stopped criminals from daily killing innocent victims?Not hardly,Can you say multiple time murder capitol of the country?
    It may seem selfish to vote just on one issue,but when that issue is THE issue,the one issue that bears on all others,then you let your conscience be your guide.Ultimately the second amendment means more to our individual freedom,liberty and safety than any other,It protects all the others.
    You can argue all you want that a citizen army/militia would never be able to stop the U.S. military from imposing the will of a rouge congress/president on the nation,but the bottom line is that it IS a deterant.Not to mention those same soldiers are sworn to defend and protect the constitution of the United States against all enemies ,both foreign and domestic.Hopefully they will remember that if it ever comes to that point.
    lastly ignorance is bliss to those who don't accept the responsibility that this is OUR government and OUR country,as in "we the people".The reason is got to this point to begin with is indifference,and the only way to change it is action.
    If I appear to be criticizing anyone,my apologies,that was not my intent.I just want to make sure everone understands the realities and severity of the times we live in,and don't want anyone deceived by the mainstream media.Damn near all of the major networks have an agenda,and trust me it ain't your FREEDOM!!!



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    Re: Obama finally gives us his REAL VIEWS on gun ownership

    Phalanx, Can you email me what you wrote? [email protected] Thanks

    don't thread on me, Great response.... we cannot trust a government that doesn't trust its lawful citizens with firearms. Our forefathers realized this and wrote firearms ownership into the Constitution to protect this democracy. :duh: :2cents:
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