Is that shotgun ammo only or all ammo?
And what does it mean for buying ammo out of state?
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It started when a California Condor, endangered and protected species, was found dead with lead pellets in it.Originally Posted by JackRydden224
The ban doesn't go into effect until 2019.
Lead ammo and shot according to this article: California is first state to ban lead in hunting ammo
AFAIK, it bans the use of lead ammunition for use in hunting. Doesn't ban sale of in general.
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It also includes wording that the ban won't apply if the ATF determines that non-lead ammo is "armor piercing" and therefore banned at a federal level.
Banning lead will drive the cost of ammo even higher, which is an end-run on gun control. If you can't afford to feed it, why keep it?
I'm surprised that he veto'd the bills. I'm a bit disappointed that he did - I think it's only delaying the inevitable.
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The lead ban is only for hunting ammuntion, not target ammo. Further it includes a provision that declares it null and void if federal bans make non-lead ammo unavailable. The signing statement for it is rather interesting. http://gov.ca.gov/docs/AB_711_2013_Signing_Message.pdf
Also look at the veto statement for AB 374.
I doubt it. Hunting in CA isn't anywhere as big as other states. The ban would free up supply to other states without the ban. What hunting there is in CA, is mostly in the greener north. Elsewhere, there isn't much worth hunting in the desert. As for prices, ammunition and guns are already typically 10-15% more in CA than other states (gouging, limited supply and demand, whatever you call it).
While it sets a political precedence, I seriously doubt it has much impact within a state where most shooters are collectors and hobbyists.
Last edited by fmunk; 10-15-2013 at 02:18 PM.
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This shouldn't hurt too much as lead ammo can still be used for range time etc.. If anything it may increase the volume of demand for non-lead ammo and bring the cost down, though when hunting most folks only fire a few rounds. Overall it's just a shame that the armchair science that allowed this wasn't questioned. Thankfully he canned some of the more ridiculous bills, just not enough.
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Besides, don't most hunters load their own?
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