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    "Mysterious fake cellphone towers found across US"

    Mysterious fake cellphone towers found across US- MSN Money

    I am wondering if we will find out or be even told who owns them. I have my feelings on this but it is better left unsaid.

    It happens all the time to me but my cell carrier really sucks.....

    Mysterious fake cellphone towers found across US

    The structures appear to be connecting to nearby phones and either tapping calls or reading texts.

    By Jack Dutton, Business Insider

    Seventeen fake cellphone towers were discovered across the U.S. last week, according to a report in Popular Science.

    Rather than offering you cellphone service, the towers appear to be connecting to nearby phones, bypassing their encryption, and either tapping calls or reading texts.

    Les Goldsmith, the CEO of ESD America, used ESD's CryptoPhone 500 to detect 17 bogus cellphone towers. ESD is a leading American defense and law enforcement technology provider based in Las Vegas.


    With most phones, these fake communication towers are undetectable. But not for the CryptoPhone 500, a customized Android device that is disguised as a Samsung Galaxy S III but has highly advanced encryption.

    Goldsmith told Popular Science: "Interceptor use in the U.S. is much higher than people had anticipated. One of our customers took a road trip from Florida to North Carolina and he found eight different interceptors on that trip. We even found one at South Point Casino in Las Vegas.”

    The towers were found in July, but the report implied that there may have been more out there.

    Although it is unclear who owns the towers, ESD found that several of them were located near U.S. military bases.

    "Whose interceptor is it? Who are they, that's listening to calls around military bases? Is it just the U.S. military, or are they foreign governments doing it? The point is: we don't really know whose they are," Goldsmith said to Popular Science.

    It's probably not the NSA -- that agency can tap all it wants without the need for bogus towers, VentureBeat reported:
    Not the NSA, cloud security firm SilverSky CTO/SVP Andrew Jaquith told us. "The NSA doesn't need a fake tower," he said. "They can just go to the carrier" to tap your line.

    ComputerWorld points out that the fake towers give themselves away by crushing down the performance of your phone from 4G to 2G while the intercept is taking place. So if you see your phone operating on a slow download signal while you're near a military base . . . maybe make that call from somewhere else.

    In an amazing coincidence, police departments in a handful of U.S. cities have been operating "Stingray" or "Hailstorm" towers, which -- you guessed it -- conduct surveillance on mobile phone activity. They do that by jamming mobile phone signals, forcing phones to drop down from 4G and 3G network bands to the older, more insecure 2G band.
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    NSA? What do you think?
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    I think that if you want to find out who really owns it, run a round or two into one of the antennas - even a pistol round should do, they're not significantly tough - and then back off to observe who comes out to fix it.

    That someone might need some "talking to", in order to disclose who he works for. Remember, it'll be difficult to get an intelligible answer out of him if you put the barrel of the pistol IN his mouth.
    Do you really think we want laws to be observed? We want them broken. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be crimes that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants law-abiding citizens? Pass the kind of laws that can’t be observed, enforced, or objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers.

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    REALLY hard to understand when it's a foreign language trying to get sound the barrel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo View Post
    I think that if you want to find out who really owns it, run a round or two into one of the antennas - even a pistol round should do, they're not significantly tough - and then back off to observe who comes out to fix it.

    That someone might need some "talking to", in order to disclose who he works for. Remember, it'll be difficult to get an intelligible answer out of him if you put the barrel of the pistol IN his mouth.

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    Roger that.
    Although I've heard that even foreigners will speak English well enough to understand, if you listen close and take the wet towel off of their face. You don't have to untie them.
    Do you really think we want laws to be observed? We want them broken. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be crimes that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants law-abiding citizens? Pass the kind of laws that can’t be observed, enforced, or objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers.

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    I say a combination of both Foreign and Domestic.................................

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    Check the tax rolls and see who owns the land. Next talk tot the owner or look for a legal agreement. Cell towers require licensing and approval. This may be a way to see who owns them or get them removed if not having the proper permit. The last option is to take out a diamond blade and go logging.

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    Diamond blade?
    I thought of thermite paste earlier.......
    More quieter might be bestest. Of course, the flash might give away that something was up.....
    Do you really think we want laws to be observed? We want them broken. There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be crimes that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants law-abiding citizens? Pass the kind of laws that can’t be observed, enforced, or objectively interpreted - and you create a nation of law-breakers.

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    I think CCI Quiet .22s would do the job without a ruckus. Or angle iron packed with thermate, not thermite.

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    Local governments, city, county or even state.
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