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    Need to see what the Republicans did too.............................

    Same Ole, Same Ole................

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    Obama Administration Corruption: Travel Bans Lifted For Those Who Donated Well To Democrats
    Obama Administration Corruption: Travel Bans Lifted For Those Who Donated Well To Democrats

    According to new reports, the Obama administration, which champions human rights as well as other causes, is corrupt, and has been so since its outset.

    One such report, from the New York Times, makes some shocking allegations concerning the wonderful world of politics, specifically referring to favor-trading between Obama and his cohorts, including Hilary Clinton, to suspend travel bans for Ecuadorian nationals who had committed crimes, but who donated generously to Democratic organizations.
    The report centers around the rich and well-connected Isaías family, who are generous donors to Democrats. One of the family members, Estefanía Isaías, for example, who was forbidden from traveling to the States in 2008 due to illegally obtaining work permits for her maids, had her travel ban lifted after one such handsome donation was made.
    One Democrat, Senator Bob Menendez from New Jersey, who was heavily involved with the scandal, allegedly went to great lengths to ensure the family could travel freely and worked to have the ban lifted.
    Apparently, the travel ban was lifted just as tens of thousands of dollars came pouring into the Obama administration’s coffers.
    The Times report even details specific donations, received by the Democrats, like a check for $40,000, made payable to the Obama Victory Fund in May 2012, just one day before the Obama administration lifted the ban against Estefanía Isaías.
    Due to the corruption in the Obama administration, Roberto and William Isaías, who were sentenced in their home country to eight years in prison, in absentia, were not extradited to Ecuador to serve their time. Apparently, the fraud case that the two men were involved in cost the country $400 million.
    Accordingly, the whole Isaías family “has repeatedly received favorable treatment from the highest levels of the American government,” casting serious doubts as to whether the Obama administration can be trusted at all, or if they are simply more interested in filling their coffers with donations, no matter what the source.


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    Yep...and now we're lifting sanctions on Cuba....in spite of them being a bastion of human rights violations....all under "Democratic" leadership in this administration. Apparently Dems care about human rights....just not all that much.....same as Republicans who likely oppose lifting sanctions on Cuba in large part (IMO) b/c a Democrat is doing it.

    The 3 ring circus side show continues....and we, the people, eat it up with a spoon.
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    What the hell good have the sanctions on Cuba ever done? Can someone please explain to me why cutting a close neighbor off from trade and travel would help end human rights violations when their people could benefit from seeing the freedoms and prosperity they could otherwise enjoy if it weren't for the regime they are under? Why would removing the little bit of common ground and mutual benefit countries gain through trade help relations or make another country more amicable or receptive to our concerns?

    I'm no fan of Obama, but ending sanctions on Cuba would be a step forward.
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    Eh, whatever. Both parties are pretty much the same with a different brand name. Both take money from and answer to mega corporations and tycoons. Both want to tax and spend, they just want to spend on different things.

    With regards to Cuba, I personally don't care how it goes. However, sanctions have only hurt the Cuban population, who have done nothing but wanting to live and raise families (not a whole lot different from Americans?) You may ask why then are sanctions being lifted on Cuba but not North Korea? While both have a long list of human rights violations (as if we haven't witnessed violations within our own borders with regards to overzealous policing), Cuba doesn't have an active program to develop nuclear weapons.

    While Putin is rattling sabers and expanding Russian territory, it's wise for the US to shore up influence in the American hemisphere. This move also further isolate Venezuela, which had been propping up the Castros with their oil revenue. Now that middle eastern oil (and low prices) is beating the crap out of Venezuela's economy, it's a wise move at the right time.

    Argue till the cows come home whether is the right move or not... One thing for certain is that a lot of mega American corporations are poised to make a lot of money with the re-opening of Cuba. What does that mean to you and I? more bought politicians on the hill and not much else.
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    And to be clear, I am not really interested in Cuba. I don't honestly have an opinion other than to note that each party would oppose it if the shoe were on the other foot.

    Actually, when the wife and I talked about it last night....I guess I did take a position, and that was: "Trade with everyone, make alliances with no one". Too bad we didn't stick to that ideal.
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    Cuba is 53 years behind the times. With needed technology, hospital equipment/supplies,roads,highways, construction, farming equipment,etc.. The US could probably bring 500 billion dollars into Cuba. The island of Cuba:
    Cuba has a total land area of 110,860 km² (42,803.3 sq mi). It has 3,735 km (2,321 mi) of coastline and 29 km (18 mi) of land borders
    The main island (Cuba) makes up most of the land area 105,006 km² (40,543 sq mi).
    The island is 1,199 km (745 mi) long and 200 km (124 mi) across its widest points and 35 km (22 mi) across its narrowest points.
    The largest island outside the main island is the Isla de la Juventud (Isle of Youth) in the southwest, with an area of 3,056 km² (1,179.9 sq mi).
    Hundreds if not thousands of companies could thrive in Cuba.With crops of tobacco,sugar,rice,etc..
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    PS Jeb Bush is running for president and will probably win. It appears he was a good governor while serving in florida. No bad mouthing was heard about him and law enforcement in florida supported him. Even though the media states him placing money in accounts overseas: such as china: ie another Romney. Time will tell as always.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baddfrogg View Post
    ps jeb bush is running for president and will probably win. It appears he was a good governor while serving in florida. No bad mouthing was heard about him and law enforcement in florida supported him.
    vomit!
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    I didn't care for the first Bush (never trust a company man), and I really didn't like the second.
    There's absolutely no way - period - that you could talk me into voting for another one. Regardless.
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    Bush does not have a snow ball's chance in Hell of winning the Presidency. If that is all the Republicans have, then just hang it up.
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