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    Dems interested in all your internet info

    But really....its not just dems.....

    Senate Democrats Are Circulating Plans for Government Takeover of the Internet: Reason Roundup

    Plus: Testing telemedicine abortion and 3D printed guns.

    Elizabeth Nolan Brown|Jul. 31, 2018 9:30 am

    Douglas Christian/ZUMA Press/Newscom
    All your base are belong to us. A leaked memo circulating among Senate Democrats contains a host of bonkers authoritarian proposals for regulating digital platforms, purportedly as a way to get tough on Russian bots and fake news. To save American trust in "our institutions, democracy, free press, and markets," it suggests, we need unprecedented and undemocratic government intervention into online press and markets, including "comprehensive (GDPR-like) data protection legislation" of the sort enacted in the E.U.
    Titled "Potential Policy Proposals for Regulation of Social Media and Technology Firms," the draft policy paper–penned by Sen. Mark Warner and leaked by an unknown source to Axios–the paper starts out by noting that Russians have long spread disinformation, including when "the Soviets tried to spread 'fake news' denigrating Martin Luther King" (here he fails to mention that the Americans in charge at the time did the same). But NOW IT'S DIFFERENT, because technology.
    "Today's tools seem almost built for Russian disinformation techniques," Warner opines. And the ones to come, he assures us, will be even worse.

    Here's how Warner is suggesting we deal:

    -Mandatory location verification. The paper suggests forcing social media platforms to authenticate and disclose the geographic origin of all user accounts or posts.

    -Mandatory identity verification: The paper suggests forcing social media and tech platforms to authenticate user identities and only allow "authentic" accounts ("inauthentic accounts not only pose threats to our democratic process...but undermine the integrity of digital markets"), with "failure to appropriately address inauthentic account activity" punishable as "a violation of both SEC disclosure rules and/or Section 5 of the [Federal Trade Commission] Act."

    -Bot labeling: Warner's paper suggests forcing companies to somehow label bots or be penalized (no word from Warner on how this is remotely feasible)

    -Define popular tech as "essential facilities." These would be subject to all sorts of heightened rules and controls, says the paper, offering Google Maps as an example of the kinds of apps or platforms that might count. "The law would not mandate that a dominant provider offer the serve for free," writes Warner. "Rather, it would be required to offer it on reasonable and non-discriminatory terms" provided by the government.

    Other proposals include more disclosure requirements for online political speech, more spending to counter supposed cybersecurity threats, more funding for the Federal Trade Commission, a requirement that companies' algorithms can be audited by the feds (and this data shared with universities and others), and a requirement of "interoperability between dominant platforms."

    The paper also suggests making it a rule that tech platforms above a certain size must turn over internal data and processes to "independent public interest researchers" so they can identify potential "public health/addiction effects, anticompetitive behavior, radicalization," scams, "user propagated misinformation," and harassment–data that could be used to "inform actions by regulators or Congress."

    And–of course– these include further revisions to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, recently amendedby Congress to exclude protections for prostitution-related content. A revision to Section 230 could provide the ability for users to demand takedowns of certain sorts of content and hold platforms liable if they don't abide, it says, while admitting that "attempting to distinguish between true disinformation and legitimate satire could prove difficult."
    "The proposals in the paper are wide ranging and in some cases even politically impossible, and raise almost as many questions as they try to answer," suggested Mathew Ingram, putting it very mildly at the Columbia Journalism Review.

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    TPTB (both sides) have taken notice how organic movements have grown from the Arab Spring/Winter protests to protests in China and Iran, etc. and they NEED the kill switch and tracking ability to ensure they can control the flow of information as well as organization of government opposition. What they fail to realize is that 4G warfare circumvents most of this crap by radicalizing/weaponizing an ideal at the individual level..."think globally, ACT locally"....again, at the individual level....if you will.
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    Both sides of the same coin. Were they not bitching about the picture IDs when you show up to vote!!??

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    Only having a few hours during one day in the work week to vote is crazy. No voting on the weekend? How about a whole week, 24/7 to cast your vote? I'm with Marlon, ID is crazy. Didn't Kobach get busted for something similar? As far as gathering infoz, that's not a new activity, just a newer platform. We have huge NSA datacenter here in utah that is only looking at OLD data they've mined but didn't have the resources to index/search. Don't think much of any Party, currently. As long as campaign funding is unchecked and Corporations are People, nothing will improve.


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