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    Maryland "red flag" gun confiscation results in death

    This is pretty gnarly, could be it.....no judge, no jury, no crime, no charges

    "We're here to take your guns or murder you because we got a phone call from someone, who could be anyone, that said we had to take your guns....or murder you."


    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...105-story.html

    wo Anne Arundel County police officers serving one of Maryland’s new “red flag” protective orders to remove guns from a house killed a Ferndale man after he refused to give up his gun and a struggle ensued early Monday morning, police said.
    The subject of the protective order, Gary J. Willis, 60, answered his door in the 100 block of Linwood Ave. at 5:17 a.m. with a gun in his hand, Anne Arundel County police said. He initially put the gun down next to the door, but “became irate” when officers began to serve him with the order, opened the door and picked up the gun again, police said.
    Anne Arundel police chief: Shooting was evidence that month-old 'red flag' law is needed »
    “A fight ensued over the gun,” said Sgt. Jacklyn Davis, a police spokeswoman.
    One of the officers struggled to take the gun from Willis, and during the struggle the gun fired but did not strike anyone, police said. At that point, the other officer fatally shot Willis, police said.
    Neither officer was injured, police said, and neither of their names was released.


    Davis said she did not know whether anyone else was in the home at the time, and she did not know who had sought the protective order against Willis.
    The “red flag” protective orders are officially known as emergency risk protection orders, and may be sought by family members, police or others to temporarily prohibit people’s access to firearms when they show signs that they are a danger to themselves or others. The law took effect Oct. 1.
    A spokeswoman for the Maryland Judiciary denied a request to see any and all requests for protection orders made at the residence on Linwood Avenue, citing the law, which states that anything related to an order is confidential unless the court rules otherwise.
    Police had come to the house Sunday night to speak with Willis, a longtime resident of the neighborhood, said Michele Willis, who was on the scene Monday morning and identified herself as his niece. She attributed that visit by police to “family being family” but declined to elaborate.
    She said one of her aunts requested the protective order to temporarily remove Willis’ guns.
    Michele Willis said she had grown up in the house and had been there Sunday night to move out her son, who had been helping to care for her grandmother.
    Her uncle, Gary Willis, lived in an apartment above the garage; she saidother family members, including her grandmother, another uncle, two aunts and Gary Willis’ girlfriend were also at the home Sunday night.
    She said her uncle “likes to speak his mind,” but she described him as harmless.
    “I’m just dumbfounded right now,” she said. “My uncle wouldn’t hurt anybody.”


    Two Anne Arundel County police officers serving one of the new “red flag” protective orders to remove guns from a house killed a Ferndale man after he refused to give up his gun and a struggle ensued early Monday morning, police said.
    (Video by Jeffrey F. Bill / Capital Gazette)



    Those who had been in the home were interviewed by police in Crownsville on Monday morning, Willis said.
    She and other family members stood down the street in the rain while waiting for police to let family members into the home Monday morning — in part to retrieve two dogs and a cat still inside.
    Willis said the officers should have continued to negotiate with her uncle.
    “They didn’t need to do what they did,” she said.
    Anne Arundel County reported 19 such “red flag” petitions in October, tied with Harford County for the most in the state, according to a report on requests made under the new law by Montgomery County Sheriff Darren M. Popkin. The state has reported 114 petitions overall.
    Baltimore Sun Media Group reporter Phil Davis contributed to this article.
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    So lesson learned shoot through the door when they show up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgreed View Post
    So lesson learned shoot through the door when they show up.

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    Yup...If you're going to answer the door with a gun, you damn well better be ready to use it...REGARDLESS of who's at it.
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    ....I too feel like he messed up when he put the gun down....



    But really even if he hadn't, he was only alive for a little while longer. He'd be touted as some kind of child beating baby seal rapist and the police would break out all their Call of Duty toys and be bop around the town with their NODS on backwards, bellies hanging out from under their kryptek plate carriers, pristine HK416's with 20lbs of shit hanging off them, cherry on top..... those godamn yellow stickers still on their eotechs.

    Junk fumbling pudwackers.



    What gets me is he was basically prank called to death. Like hitmen for hire. If I was a drug dealer.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasChris View Post
    ....I too feel like he messed up when he put the gun down....



    But really even if he hadn't, he was only alive for a little while longer. He'd be touted as some kind of child beating baby seal rapist and the police would break out all their Call of Duty toys and be bop around the town with their NODS on backwards, bellies hanging out from under their kryptek plate carriers, pristine HK416's with 20lbs of shit hanging off them, cherry on top..... those godamn yellow stickers still on their eotechs.

    Junk fumbling pudwackers.



    What gets me is he was basically prank called to death. Like hitmen for hire. If I was a drug dealer.......
    Yup....don't get me wrong. No home owner's winning that fight. You're dead the minute they get the call to break in your door. I hope I'd just accept it and take as many of the Constitution raping motherfuckers with me as possible.

    Only real hope is a barricade situation where you can get your family/pets out before you're all burned/gassed out. The man of the house though....well and truly fucked. Welcome to the real Amerika, where you're not nearly as "free" as you thought.

    Your choices are really....go along, take the beatings, don't resist and hope you can litigate your way out (provided you even have enough funds)....or option 2: blood bath. A strong stand at the beginning where you can stack up wounded or dead in a murder hole is the only chance you have of halting (temporarily) the attack. Wounded are even better....provided you maintain control of the bodies. Big bargaining chip there.

    But you're 10000% right...you'll be a child molesting, racist who had it coming. Probably plant some drugs for good measure to convince the "conservatives" that it was all a good shoot.
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