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    Well, It's Official. Semi-Autos are now Full Autos.

    https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/bump-stocks

    Bump Stocks

    Bump stocks installed on two firearms
    Bump stocks installed on two firearms

    On December 18, 2018, Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker announced that the Department of Justice has amended the regulations of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), clarifying that bump stocks fall within the definition of “machinegun” under federal law, as such devices allow a shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger.
    The Final Rule

    Please note: This is the text of the final rule as signed by the Acting Attorney General, but the official version of the final rule will be as it is published in the Federal Register.

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    The final rule clarifies that the definition of “machinegun” in the Gun Control Act (GCA) and National Firearms Act (NFA) includes bump-stock-type devices, i.e., devices that allow a semiautomatic firearm to shoot more than one shot with a single pull of the trigger by harnessing the recoil energy of the semiautomatic firearm to which it is affixed so that the trigger resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter.

    The rule will go into effect 90 days from the date of publication in the Federal Register.
    What To Do

    Current possessors of bump-stock-type devices must divest themselves of possession as of the effective date of the final rule.

    One option is to destroy the device, and the final rule identifies possible methods of destruction, to include completely melting, shredding, or crushing the device. Any method of destruction must render the device incapable of being readily restored to function.
    How to destroy bump stocks

    Current possessors also have the option to abandon bump-stock-type devices at the nearest ATF office. ATF advises that it is best to make an appointment beforehand with the nearest ATF office.
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    Background

    On February 20, 2018, President Trump issued a memorandum instructing the Attorney General “to dedicate all available resources to… propose for notice and comment a rule banning all devices that turn legal weapons into machineguns.”

    In response to that direction the Department reviewed more than 186,000 public comments and made the decision to make clear that the term “machinegun” as used in the National Firearms Act (NFA), as amended, and Gun Control Act (GCA), as amended, includes all bump-stock-type devices that harness recoil energy to facilitate the continuous operation of a semiautomatic long gun after a single pull of the trigger.
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    Will not stand the sniff test violation of the 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments.

    Although this also may be being used to force the supreme court into making a ruling which could kill the NFA.

    But, to stay on topic, they would throw this out on it's ear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgreed View Post
    Will not stand the sniff test violation of the 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments.

    Although this also may be being used to force the supreme court into making a ruling which could kill the NFA.

    But, to stay on topic, they would throw this out on it's ear.

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    We'll see. My guess is it will stay on the books....the courts will rule the ban on "bump stocks" legal and over the course of time, the rule will be expanded to cover binary triggers, then "match" type triggers and eventually "rate of fire" restrictions that could well encompass any semi-auto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean K. View Post
    We'll see. My guess is it will stay on the books....the courts will rule the ban on "bump stocks" legal and over the course of time, the rule will be expanded to cover binary triggers, then "match" type triggers and eventually "rate of fire" restrictions that could well encompass any semi-auto.
    and at that point the Constitution is done. Law will be only what those in charge want it to be..... the Left will applaud the common sense of the restrictions until they start disappearing after making tweets/blog entries that are critical of the regime.

    Great.

    Non coastal NorthWest seems like the best place for a last stand. FL feels like it's going the wrong way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navalbeaver View Post
    Non coastal NorthWest seems like the best place for a last stand. FL feels like it's going the wrong way.
    Go Galt instead. Much easier, more satisfying, and you get to live a lot longer.

    There's a very nice rabbit hole that starts here: https://www.gocurrycracker.com/never-pay-taxes-again/
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomAiello View Post
    Go Galt instead. Much easier, more satisfying, and you get to live a lot longer.

    There's a very nice rabbit hole that starts here: https://www.gocurrycracker.com/never-pay-taxes-again/

    Interesting read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean K. View Post
    We'll see. My guess is it will stay on the books....the courts will rule the ban on "bump stocks" legal and over the course of time, the rule will be expanded to cover binary triggers, then "match" type triggers and eventually "rate of fire" restrictions that could well encompass any semi-auto.
    agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by navalbeaver View Post
    and at that point the Constitution is done. Law will be only what those in charge want it to be..... the Left will applaud the common sense of the restrictions until they start disappearing after making tweets/blog entries that are critical of the regime.

    Great.

    Non coastal NorthWest seems like the best place for a last stand. FL feels like it's going the wrong way.
    We got room for ya up here in northern michigan
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    I'm in Michigan too. How far North?

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