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    Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    The only complaint I had about my Hornady LNL Press was I could not not reload .45 the way I wanted to.

    1) I could not run all 5 die stations because the ejector wire got in the way on the last die when loading for .45 ACP
    2) I only had one powder dispenser, the one that came with the press, and it's a PITA to adjust each time I swap caliber
    3) I had to expand (the case mouth) and charge in 2 separate steps. Now I can do it in one.

    #1 above was fixed by ordering the Hornady EZ-eject conversion kit ($30 + $10 for each plate to be modded)
    #2 was fixed by buying an additional powder dispenser
    #3 above was fixed by using the Lee-Auto-Disk with Lee Expander

    Big prop again to Lee Dies! They do not disappoint. The Lee .45 ACP die kit comes with 4 dies. Best part is the whole kit is only $35. In addition to the 4 dies, you also get excellent instructions, a shell holder, and a powder cup.

    Another big Prop to Lee for the Lee Auto-Disk Powder dispenser! This thing is super consistent, I believe even more consistent than the Hornady LBL powder dispenser. It was +/- .1 grain with Titegroup Powder.

    The Lee Auto Disk is only $40, while the Hornady is $80.00. The Auto-Disk works perfect with the Lee expander/powder-through die. In addition, it also works great with the Hornady LNL press! I am thinking of picking up 2 more of these dispenser and have them preset for other calibers.

    Here are the 5 dies in action with 6 stations.
    1) Station #1 is the Resizing + Decapper station
    2) #2 is the Priming Station (no dies here)
    3) #3 is the Case-Mouth-Expander + charging station
    4) #4 is the Powder Check die. This station is not really important for rifles, but extremely important for Pistols, as it will prevent you from accidentally double charging. It also warns you when your cases are not charging... because as we all know, there is nothing like loading 100 rounds and finding out later that none of them have charges in them!
    5) #5 is the Bullet Seating Die
    6) #6 is the Bullet Crimp Die

    The Black Die is the RCBS powder check die. Works way better than the Hornady, which stuck way to much (the rod would not come back down). The RCBS unit is just sturdier, it also comes with 2 heads to fix small and large cases to give you more consistent readings.





    Another addition awhile back. Brass rod with flag on top for "out of primer indicator". When Primer runs out the flag will be at the bottom, but in addition, the primer feeder will not return to it's natural position because the rod will jam in the primer feeding hole.



    Here is a rare glimpse of CAWIC (Cartmann Ammunition Work Industrial Center),and what I look like reloading in the morning before showering or brushing my teeth.

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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    Very cool I saw the price breakdown you did in another post for 5.56, what do you think about .45? Just plinking ammo, buying bulk components of course...
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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by celiajean View Post
    Very cool I saw the price breakdown you did in another post for 5.56, what do you think about .45? Just plinking ammo, buying bulk components of course...
    .45 ACP reloads are cheap to shoot and easy to reload.

    Cost is about 15 cents per round. Which is a pretty good deal considering factory ammo goes for about 35 cents or more a round.

    With Pistol there is no case prep. No case prep means no tedious stuff such as trimming and no swaging. Resizing with Pistol cases are so easy, you never have to worry about case lube or stuck dies. If I feel frequent binding while resizing, I will lube 1 case before going through the size die, but this one case will keep the sizing die slick for at least the next 200 cases if not 500. Only case prep you do with pistol is to tumble the brass. You can easily do 1000 rounds of pistols, from start to finish in 3 hours. If you have the proper set up and work fast, you can probably get this down to 2 hours per 1000.

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    Cases - Each .45 cal case can easily 10 firings if not 20. No really need to factor in case cost with .45 because you can easily find them for free, and even if you paid for them, cost will be less than half of 1 cent a round once you figure in the per round cost.

    Powder - 1 lb of Titegroup = $15.00 = ~1550 rounds = less than 1 cent a round. You can get per case cost down if you buy podwer in bulk.. but that's a lot of shooting! 8 lbs of powder is about 12,000 rounds.

    Primers - Tula and Wolf primers go for 20 per 1000. Which is 2 cents a round.

    Bullets - Zero or Armscor 230 gr FMJ Ball bullets go for about 12 cents each. If you shoot unjacketed bullet, you can get it down to 7 cents. I myself only shoot jacketed because the lead stuff builds up way too fast in my guns.

    Add it all up and that is less than 15 cents per round. Going rate for the cheapest .45 Ammo I see now is about $350 per 1000.

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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    The Lee powder measures have worked for me for many years. They are cheap enough from places like F&M Reloading that I got one for each pistol I load.
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    Thanks!
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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by m118sb View Post
    The Lee powder measures have worked for me for many years. They are cheap enough from places like F&M Reloading that I got one for each pistol I load.
    I had the Lee Perfect measure and that thing was awesome. When I got into progressive reloading about 5 years ago, the LNL dispenser is all I used and I thought it was great.

    That is until I had to adjust it for different calibers. Only reason I went with the Lee was because of cost. I wanted a dedicated 45 set up and keep the cost down.

    What impresses me about the Lee dispensers is the research that went into it. It is so simple, and so accurate. Caliber swap just takes swapping of disks, which is about a 2 minute process if you include clean up. The best part about the disk is Lee did the research and tell you how much of a particlar powder (say Titegroup) will drop through that disk by just looking at a chart. I also have the Lee charge bar, which replaces the disk if the disk does not you the particular charge you want.
    Yes I will pick up 2 more of these.

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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricCartmann View Post
    I had the Lee Perfect measure and that thing was awesome. When I got into progressive reloading about 5 years ago, the LNL dispenser is all I used and I thought it was great.
    My LNL powder measure hasn't even been used, it's still sitting in the wrapper from when I got the AP press last summer... : But, all I've loaded on it has been pistol so far and just reset my Lee measures for the new press. IIRC, Lee holds the patent on a case activated powder measure so they get some royalties out of the deal.

    I like the LNL uses swappable metering inserts so you can get your adjustment down for one particular load and be able to remove the insert and go back to a different load. That's a good idea but they are expensive to stock up on if you load more than a couple different rounds.
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    Glad you got it sorted.

    Personally I use a Dillon 650 and have a toolhead set up with powder measure, powder check and the dies for each caliber.

    .308, 30-06 and .45 use the same shell plate so it takes about three or four minutes to convert between those calibers on my large primer press.

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    Re: Finally my .45 Reloading process works the way I want it to.

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    Glad you got it sorted.

    Personally I use a Dillon 650 and have a toolhead set up with powder measure, powder check and the dies for each caliber.

    .308, 30-06 and .45 use the same shell plate so it takes about three or four minutes to convert between those calibers on my large primer press.
    With LNL quick change bushings and a dedicated powder dispenser, I am at about 2 minutes for caliber swap, and that's with drinking a whole 12 oz beer in the process

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    I love my LNL, I've got the case feeder... I want to get bullet feeder next!
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