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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post
    Technically, they shouldn't be able to sell a pistol with a butt stock in the same order (or within reason). As a physical gun shop, I am expected to make judgement calls on violations that reside in a grey area.
    That's incorrect though. The FAST 2 with the Tailhook isn't a complete FAST 2 stock. The sliding portion of the buttstock is replaced by an adjustable adapter for the Tailhook assembly and is simply a pistol brace. RA was selling this combination directly from the factory during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale.
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    Sean, do you have pictures of this brace from RA, I've yet to see it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorin View Post
    Sean, do you have pictures of this brace from RA, I've yet to see it.
    It's on their site. Main page https://robinsonarmament.com/

    It's one of 3 scrolling pics....first is the pistol with the brace, then an article about the M on a YT vid, then an ad saying "Not an AR15, Better!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean K. View Post
    That's incorrect though. The FAST 2 with the Tailhook isn't a complete FAST 2 stock. The sliding portion of the buttstock is replaced by an adjustable adapter for the Tailhook assembly and is simply a pistol brace. RA was selling this combination directly from the factory during the Black Friday/Cyber Monday sale.
    In that case, RA has likely verified compliance and you should be fine. "Designed as" is a critical phrase in most of the ATF interpretations.
    I usually like to see a copy of the ATF letter verifying their ruling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by navalbeaver View Post
    I just got through my first inspection.... Trying to make sense of federal/state/local laws to ensure that I'm in compliance is maddening. You'd think the laws could be written so that they'd be easy to comply with....No. 3 day wait isn't actually 3 days. It's not actually 72hrs, and depending on who you talk with that 72hrs could be upwards of 144.

    Your straw purchase issue is a little more clear but the issue of NFA/pistol/constructive intent is always fun to debate as well.

    Why's it so hard to do the right thing?
    Yep. It's a labyrinth of legal mumbo-jumbo. And yes, their interpretation of a "day" is interesting. For delays, it's 3 days for which federal government offices are open non-inclusive of the day the background check was run and the actual transfer day, so it can be longer than a week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post
    In that case, RA has likely verified compliance and you should be fine. "Designed as" is a critical phrase in most of the ATF interpretations.
    I usually like to see a copy of the ATF letter verifying their ruling.
    I take it you sent the PM first? ATF already has a ruling on the Tailhook....and it's okay on the Scorpion's folder, so I'd have to assume the XCR's wouldn't be any different.
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    What's the worst that could happen? You might end up sharing a cell with the HKPro Parts guy!
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    I just got back from my first range trip with the XCR. WOW!!!! This gun is amazing!!! I followed the instructions for the 60 round break in period (full gas setting). I then turned the gas down to setting 1 to see if the bolt would lock back on last round fired. I didn't expect gas setting 1 to work but it was enough with mil-sup M193, from my reading most people use setting 4.

    Does anyone else run their XCR on gas setting #1.


    I am very optimistic about the XCR and I am going to use it as my primary instructor 5.56 gun over the next few months. Then do a full review of the rifle.

    I wish this gun made it to the table during the SCAR program trials. If there was a SCAR program rematch and I was on the selection committee the XCR would be my champion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAT-273 View Post
    I just got back from my first range trip with the XCR. WOW!!!! This gun is amazing!!! I followed the instructions for the 60 round break in period (full gas setting). I then turned the gas down to setting 1 to see if the bolt would lock back on last round fired. I didn't expect gas setting 1 to work but it was enough with mil-sup M193, from my reading most people use setting 4.

    Does anyone else run their XCR on gas setting #1.


    I am very optimistic about the XCR and I am going to use it as my primary instructor 5.56 gun over the next few months. Then do a full review of the rifle.

    I wish this gun made it to the table during the SCAR program trials. If there was a SCAR program rematch and I was on the selection committee the XCR would be my champion.
    I usually run mil-surp brass at setting 2....but that's on 1st gen gas blocks and with SBR length bbls (though I usually run that same setting on a 16" bbl too....never really tried position 1 as the ejection distance seems to say 2 is "correct" for my guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GAT-273 View Post
    I just got back from my first range trip with the XCR. WOW!!!! This gun is amazing!!! I followed the instructions for the 60 round break in period (full gas setting). I then turned the gas down to setting 1 to see if the bolt would lock back on last round fired. I didn't expect gas setting 1 to work but it was enough with mil-sup M193, from my reading most people use setting 4.

    Does anyone else run their XCR on gas setting #1.


    I am very optimistic about the XCR and I am going to use it as my primary instructor 5.56 gun over the next few months. Then do a full review of the rifle.

    I wish this gun made it to the table during the SCAR program trials. If there was a SCAR program rematch and I was on the selection committee the XCR would be my champion.
    Think you're going to find most are running on the lower end.

    What gas block? S-4? 0-7? If I run my old blocks on anything above 2 I get a lot of recoil and/or trigger slap. With the new, type 3 gas blocks I'm running suppressed on 1 or 2, unsuppressed 4-5.

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