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    Charging handle question

    Ok,
    I've heard a lot about it, and read in the manual about but I have yet to figure out what it's for. What am I missing? To me it feels kind of flimsy but it has been a "non factor" item for me as of yet.

    I open the bolt and lock it with the bolt lock in front of the trigger, I mash the button and the bolt closes. Fire the last round in a magazine, bolt stays open, eject magazine, insert new mag, mash button, bolt closes.

    When am I going to use the charging handle?


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    Re: Charging handle question

    What are you using to pull the bolt back, if not the charging handle?

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    Re: Charging handle question

    I'm confus-ed,not the first time...lol. Big cylindrical knob on the opposite side of the ejection port ='s charging handle,or cocking knob/handle if you prefer.



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    Re: Charging handle question

    So what's the blasted thing on the left side of the gun? *That's the one I was talking about. *It says the charging handle is a non-reciprocating handle located on the left side of the rifle with a forward assist.

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    Re: Charging handle question

    So what's the blasted thing on the left side of the gun? That's the one I was talking about. It says it's a non-reciprocating handle located on the left side of the rifle with a forward assist.
    That is the charging handle.When I said opposite side of the ejection port I meant the opposite side of the weapon.more specifically the left side if you're holding it in a firing position.The appendage next to the ejection port is the brass deflector.By non-reciprocating it means that you pull the bolt to the rear with the charging handle to charge or load the chamber,but when you fire the weapon the charging handle does not move to the rear with the bolt when it cycles.To actuate the forward assist you must push in on the charging handle knob then push forward to move the bolt into battery if for some reason it didn't fully seat.



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    Re: Charging handle question

    Sorry Tread, I was replying to Stanc.

    So, I probably won't be using it a whole lot then.

    I was just wondering because I never seemed to have a reason to use it.

    Blasted rifle just works too good!!

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    Re: Charging handle question

    By it I suppose you mean the forward assist.If yes,I feel the same way.The forward assist on an AR is the most useless appendage ever mounted on a rifle.If there's something causing the bolt not to return to battery...it might be a good idea to get it the hell out of there..instead of attemping to shove the offending whatever in there further.Ok rant over...lol. 8)



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    Re: Charging handle question

    Yup, by it I meant the forward assist. And true, I would think if the bolt didn't go all the way forward I would want to know why rather than trying to jam it forward. That seems to make most jams even worse.

    Thanks a bunch for the assist. I appreciate it, stanc as well.

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    Re: Charging handle question

    The forward assist on the rifle is meant to fully seat the bolt if it does not do so after a brass check. Mostly useless on the XCR, but still a nice feature to have just in case. On an AR it gets a LOT of use if you frequently brass check your chamber, which most of military types are used to doing (and everyone should do when going condition 1), and is definitely not useless. It is not meant to to force the bolt closed if there is some type of obstruction. Actually on the AR even an improperly lubed bolt can cause it to not seat properly after slingshoting the charging handle so it does get occasional use for that.

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    Re: Charging handle question

    Actually on the AR even an improperly lubed bolt can cause it to not seat properly after slingshoting the charging handle so it does get occasional use for that.
    Another reason why I never cared to own an AR.Any weapon with an apparently needed bolt helper is a flawed design from the word go. :2cents:
    If it doesn't go shut after releasing the bolt forward it could be a damaged round and still not a good idea to try to force it shut..hence my admonition to get the possible obstruction out.If you clear it,you should be getting a fresh round instead of possibly making a bad situation worse.You will fight as you train,therefore in my opinion it's better to make sure that you will get a bang instead of that deafening click when you need it most.On a static range this is all meaningless,with lead flying past your ears it could get you a free ticket to a dirt nap.
    The proper way to check your chamber is mostly situational awareness.When loading the rifle,visually confirm the position of the top cartridge(which side of the magazine it's on),insert the magazine,either release the bolt hold open or rack the charging handle...then pop out the magazine,make sure the top cartridge is on the opposite side.Reinsert magazine...push pull to make sure it's seated.From then on it's situational awareness,you should always be aware of what condition the weapon is in.If you forget and you absolutely must check it,just rack the bolt,ejecting the live round if there's one there.It's faster and more positive than fumblefucking around trying to partially retract the bolt,possibly having it not fully close because it did have enough recoil spring tension...as in never ride the charging handle either.



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