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    Let's Talk Binary AR Triggers...

    I don't really trust most gun forum reviews.

    Looking for a toy for one of my ARs.

    I'm pretty particular about triggers and from the videos I've seen, I doubt I'd want one as my only choice since the pull weights seem relatively heavy and the resets don't seem particularly short.

    I only know of 3 "brands"....Fostech, Franklin Armory and Hyperfire.

    Are there others?

    Anyone else using one they particularly like?

    The new Fostech Echo Gen II at least has a roughly 4.5 lb pull...but the reset looks long. The Gen 1 had a proprietary BCG and had a 8.5# pull...no thanks.

    Hyperfire seems like they have at least 4 different models of "hypertouch" (binary?) triggers. Not sure what each does.


    So, any opinions to help me potentially waste lots of $$$? \

    Oh...and do they work with .22LR? I have a Spikes Tactical .22LR upper that would be a hoot.
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    https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...st_/5-2001632/

    Decent thread. Yes, there are others...those 3 are the most commonly known.

    Looking at the triggers...the Franklin Armory looks the simplest....but apparently there are some issues getting any of them to run 100%. The FA is also more expensive than the others.

    Yes, they will work with 22lr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean K. View Post
    https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/...st_/5-2001632/

    Decent thread. Yes, there are others...those 3 are the most commonly known.

    Looking at the triggers...the Franklin Armory looks the simplest....but apparently there are some issues getting any of them to run 100%. The FA is also more expensive than the others.

    Yes, they will work with 22lr.
    I can only speak to the Franklin Armory, the trigger pull in semi mode is really pretty good, Iíd put it on par with the XCR 2nd gen triggers as far as being smooth and pull weight. Itís been a while since I shot it so canít remember how the reset is in straight semi. The Binary mode is a hoot but if youíve been taught proper trigger control it takes a little bit to break the proper trigger squeeze habit. You basically want to pull the trigger and release as rapidly as you can to fire the second round on the release. When I set mine up I used the strongest recoil spring which is noticeably stronger than a carbine spring to increase the reliability.

    Iíve never used it with 22lr so I canít speak to that, but it is fun to shoot and usually raises some eyebrows when I do shoot it. Good way to blast through some ammo.
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    I am zero help....but I'll video whatever happens next.
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    Had a Franklin Binary prior to the Florida ban. Get one, you’ll not regret it. They are seriously good fun and make double taps stupidly easy. Fundamentally it’s not auto fire and if you just do mag dumps you’re going to get tired and sloppy, but for rapid doubles or quadruple taps they are a lot of fun, very satisfying and worth the spend. When I did the research I found issues with the Fostech and everything pointed to the Franklin version. I certainly didn’t regret the choice and do miss it now I can’t have it anymore. Actually thinking of getting a place in another state that’s friendly just so I can go get one again!
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    Thanks for the input guys.

    I should probably buy one now, but I "accidentally" overspent on Black Friday gun deals. Some of the stuff was just too good a price to pass up.
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    Thanks for the input guys.

    I should probably buy one now, but I "accidentally" overspent on Black Friday gun deals. Some of the stuff was just too good a price to pass up. I'll probably end up getting one in the coming months assuming they aren't banned.
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    I carry the Franklin trigger because it works and their PR/technicians people are great to work with if you have issues.....seen a lot of terrible reviews on Fostech
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    I'm nervous about having a trigger that fires when you release it also. I guess if you had to stop after you had pulled the trigger, you could put the other round in the ground. It reminds me of a release trigger on a shotgun. Lots of stories of guys forgetting and almost blowing someones head off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorin View Post
    I'm nervous about having a trigger that fires when you release it also. I guess if you had to stop after you had pulled the trigger, you could put the other round in the ground. It reminds me of a release trigger on a shotgun. Lots of stories of guys forgetting and almost blowing someones head off.
    On the Franklin Armory you can rotate the safety selector and stop the 2nd round from firing. Itís pretty easy once youíve practiced a few reps with it.
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