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    I am not shooting the Sig and XCR pistol suppressed. They are mainly range toys, although the XCR pistol is carried when I take my goat herd off the farm for grazing (coyotes and feral dogs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    I have a Virtus in 300Blk and 5.56, and an Original XCR in 300blk, 6.8 and 5.56. It is SBR’d and I prefer the Virtus. It feels better put together, shoots smoothly and doesn’t give me the nagging feeling that it will break randomly.
    Mickey, can you compare the Virtus to current production XCRs? When you say "original" you mean the quad rail from around 2008-2010?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomAiello View Post
    Mickey, can you compare the Virtus to current production XCRs? When you say "original" you mean the quad rail from around 2008-2010?
    Not really, my XCR has a serial number below 200. So it’s definitely one of the originals. That said it hasn’t broken on me yet, due to lots of maintenance and years of use/knowledge from this forum. Frankly though if you want four calibers and don’t mind the risk of RobArm parts supply then the XCR may be for you. I just prefer the Virtus, as I already have the XCR. If the shit hit the fan, I’d take the Virtus loaded with Mk318A1 ammo and the 11” barrel. Add the 9”300 BLK barrel in a pouch and the oversized .338 Can and I’d be set...lol and that’s what’s in my BoB.
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    Military Arms Channel gave the Virtus a glowing review:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    Not really, my XCR has a serial number below 200. So it’s definitely one of the originals. That said it hasn’t broken on me yet, due to lots of maintenance and years of use/knowledge from this forum. Frankly though if you want four calibers and don’t mind the risk of RobArm parts supply then the XCR may be for you. I just prefer the Virtus, as I already have the XCR. If the shit hit the fan, I’d take the Virtus loaded with Mk318A1 ammo and the 11” barrel. Add the 9”300 BLK barrel in a pouch and the oversized .338 Can and I’d be set...lol and that’s what’s in my BoB.
    What "maintenance" are you doing to keep it from breaking? I'm literally doing none...save an occasional carbon wipe down with a paper towel.
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    My original XCR in 5.56 (16" barrel) has run like a champ. In general, my problems have occurred when departing from that standard. 7.62 magazine issues, SBR, gas issues with suppressors, etc. My 5.45 kit has been 100% as well, though. I guess I'm wondering if the 300 BLK in a short barrel is more likely to be a problem child or run without issue like the 5.56 and 5.45 (16" barrels). Decisions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomAiello View Post
    My original XCR in 5.56 (16" barrel) has run like a champ. In general, my problems have occurred when departing from that standard. 7.62 magazine issues, SBR, gas issues with suppressors, etc. My 5.45 kit has been 100% as well, though. I guess I'm wondering if the 300 BLK in a short barrel is more likely to be a problem child or run without issue like the 5.56 and 5.45 (16" barrels). Decisions...
    So out of 9 XCRs....3 are still 16" bbls. I have a 10.5" 5.56 (started as a 16" cut down by ADCO), 10" factory 5.56, 8.3125" 5.56 (that started life as a factory 9.5"), 12" factory .308, 11" factory 6.5G and a 9" factory X39. All of those needed work to get running on craptastic steel case ammo.

    Like I said before, with good brass cased ammo...I'm betting it just works out of the box. That said, my luck with their factory pistol/SBR lengths has not been good...but then, I've had really shitty luck and it's surprising to most people that the XCR is still my all time favorite platform. That's largely b/c of the design, ergos and reliability ONCE you get them running on the cheap ammo. They are so simple to get running that to me they are worth the extra hassle.
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    I wouldn't blame the x39 mags on the XCR.

    Only gas issues I've seen with XCRs and suppressors is too much but they've all run with cans on them. I've not had any issues with a couple of 300blk setups other than user induced messing with the gas setting.

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    How much parts compatibility is there between an AR and Virtus? I took a glance at the Sig online store, and the parts ordering pages are pretty detailed. Though no bundled spare kits. Compared to the XCR, sure look like a lot of parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fmunk View Post
    How much parts compatibility is there between an AR and Virtus? I took a glance at the Sig online store, and the parts ordering pages are pretty detailed. Though no bundled spare kits. Compared to the XCR, sure look like a lot of parts.
    Safety, grip, trigger(sort of), probably takedown and pivot pins.

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