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    I sent an xcr trigger to Bill Springfield several years ago. Would not recommend.

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    Robinson doesn’t through harden, surface only. That’s the issue. Go much beyond polishing and you’re buggered.
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    Bill really got started doing HK rifle triggers. He did one for me and it's as good as an HK trigger gets. He also did a 4lb.1911 trigger that is the equivalent of any 1911 trigger job I've had done. I do remember before we had the trigger revision he did some bad triggers for XCRs, but he never did an XCR trigger for me.
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    He did a Gen 1 XCR trigger for me and it was pretty good, or at least about as good as that shitty trigger could get. I didn’t send the Gen 2 off as the rifle had been SBR’d by then. The fact is the XCR triggers suck. You can wear them in or polish them to make them less sucky and get to being about acceptable.. They will never get to be as good as a top line Geiselle or other aftermarket trigger. For the intended purpose of the rifle that’s fine. The biggest issue is the grittiness. Polish that out and then the trigger is at least smooth and predictable. There are two ways to adjust the rest. One is to weld and reproduce the sear. The other is to put a grub screw in the top of the grip screw hole to limit the downward movement of the trigger. That in itself limits the sear retention. If you tune it you will have a shorter reset. Outside of these, there isn’t much you can do with the triggers. It’s one thing that really holds the rifle back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    He did a Gen 1 XCR trigger for me and it was pretty good, or at least about as good as that shitty trigger could get. I didn’t send the Gen 2 off as the rifle had been SBR’d by then. The fact is the XCR triggers suck. You can wear them in or polish them to make them less sucky and get to being about acceptable.. They will never get to be as good as a top line Geiselle or other aftermarket trigger. For the intended purpose of the rifle that’s fine. The biggest issue is the grittiness. Polish that out and then the trigger is at least smooth and predictable. There are two ways to adjust the rest. One is to weld and reproduce the sear. The other is to put a grub screw in the top of the grip screw hole to limit the downward movement of the trigger. That in itself limits the sear retention. If you tune it you will have a shorter reset. Outside of these, there isn’t much you can do with the triggers. It’s one thing that really holds the rifle back.
    I disagree that it's a big deal. Opinions are like assholes though. YMMV.
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    I don't think it's the trigger so much as it's the....

    Price
    Internet baggage from early on
    Lack of aftermarket
    Small company
    Slow delivery times
    Inconsistent accuracy
    It's not featured in call of duty
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    Love the last one. My comment about it limiting the rifle isn’t so much sales etc..there are various reasons why it didn’t take off as much as it’s potential. My comment was more aimed at the limitation of the roles the rifle could fulfill. For anyone who disagrees, go get. Nice AR, shoot it with a stock trigger, and cleaned up stock trigger and then a top end trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    For anyone who disagrees, go get. Nice AR, shoot it with a stock trigger, and cleaned up stock trigger and then a top end trigger.
    And IMO, what you'll find is, stock for stock, cleaned up/cleaned up....the XCR has a much better trigger. No, it's not better than a top end AR trigger....
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    ...and that’s the point. You can’t put a top end trigger in the XCR.
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    Well, this has become circular, lol.
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