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    Robarms Pistol Caliber Carbine

    I was poking around on the RA facebook page and noticed a few comments from them that they're working on a PCC. I hadn't seen it mentioned here. Pretty intredasting if true.

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    Interested in seeing what they've got to offer. Any indication what mag pattern they are going with?

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    That's great, 5,6,7 years late, but still good news.

    I thought once they had the extrusion process and suppliers down, a pcc would have been a no brainer. Nevermind, research and development take time and money, and it's not like they haven't been keeping busy.

    In fact, designing and manufacturing a pcc must be fairly difficult, LWRC and POF announced pccs 3 years ago and neither are close. LWRC still keeps a teaser thread going on their forum, but POF has dropped all mention of it, like it never existed.

    I hope RA will go with a locked breach like the Sig MPX. It would have less reciprocating mass and cut down on recoil. I have an AR9 that is just meh, not as fun to shoot as I thought it would be.

    Keep us posted if there is any news.
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    Great, I just hope that they come with Canadian legal NR barrels too
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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchoutforStobor View Post
    I have an AR9 that is just meh, not as fun to shoot as I thought it would be.
    I haven't needed to shoot one to arrive at the "MEH" concept. Similar parts that aren't compatible, shooting an under-powered round? How could that go wrong? Now...a standard AR lower with magwell adapters for various manufacture's pistol mags...well...no. But certainly more desirable.

    I can't figure out why anyone would want a (p)ussified (c)rippled (c)arbine. Damn, I can "drop to sling" my L and pull my Kimber with better (or as good) results. I just don't get it!
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    If weight - and even more importantly balance - are good, my wife would run one.
    With nerve damage throughout her left arm, holding up even a loaded bare-bones Colt SP1 just isn't going to happen. At least for very long. Classes with it couldn't even be considered.
    As a matter of fact, nothing is going to work in a standard rifle caliber that we've tried. The closest is the 5.7, and that's still not a rifle round.
    She liked the Micro RONI though, so that might be on the table.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic View Post
    I haven't needed to shoot one to arrive at the "MEH" concept. Similar parts that aren't compatible, shooting an under-powered round? How could that go wrong? Now...a standard AR lower with magwell adapters for various manufacture's pistol mags...well...no. But certainly more desirable.

    I can't figure out why anyone would want a (p)ussified (c)rippled (c)arbine. Damn, I can "drop to sling" my L and pull my Kimber with better (or as good) results. I just don't get it!

    Supposedly, 9mm subguns are faster in the shoot house than 5.56. Personally, I'd rather have something capable of penetrating non-level IV body armor.
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    outside of cheap to shoot and low recoil, not much there for me. I'd rather have a little bit more thump with a 5.56. I have shot pistol caliber carbines and they're fun as hell, maybe just not the best tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjorin View Post
    outside of cheap to shoot and low recoil, not much there for me. I'd rather have a little bit more thump with a 5.56. I have shot pistol caliber carbines and they're fun as hell, maybe just not the best tool.
    Agreed....though the cost is close to that of 5.56 if you're comfortable with steel cased ammo.
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    With full auto a 9mm is much more controllable for CQB. Win semi-auto a 5.56 makes more sense. That's where the idea of pistol caliber sub guns works, full auto or burst fire. Without that they are basically a disadvantage.
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