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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Quote Originally Posted by aziator View Post
    The OP Rod is still shielded and it is a pretty stout piece. I am fairly confident that I could beat someone to death with the Op Rod without damaging it. You may hurt the sleeve that shields the gas rod (the official name escapes me right now) but I doubt you are going to damage the Op Rod.
    I said gas block, but was thinking gas tube. Im not to worried about the op-rod, im worried that if the gas tube gets crushed or bent, then the piston would not be able to cycle freely.
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyC View Post
    A: It's ugly
    B: Tha gas tube is exposed and liable for damage as well as dirt ingress through the vent holes

    Oh and did I mention it's ugly.
    I agree. Im more concerned with the exposed gas tube, being damaged in military or law enforcement applications.
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Good point to on the sight length for iron sights. Without a gas block mounted front sight the sight plane would be very short leading to limited accuracy for BUIS.
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    It wouldn't be worse than any other mini... I just think in this case even beyond others, a gas block mounted front sight would really be the best.

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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Note the production vent cuts on that upper as well.

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    Re: XCR new configuration

    I'd mount a 12" regular barrel to a Mini if I had to and not think much it, but the extra barrel doesn't seem right. Aesthetics wise, meh, but it would still function and work as intended and that's all that matters. Exposed gas cylinder is an issue I'd think too, the AK argument is a good one, but one of those things I say, "If you can protect it, then why not?"

    I'd be happy with the 10" PDW I ordered.
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    My initial reaction is that it is more susceptible to damage, but... An AK has a very similar gas block/piston/gas tube setup, and that is more exposed than it is on this rifle.

    The best ergonomic improvement I believe can be made to the XCR is to move the center of gravity rearward, and this would help with that.

    I don't know. If I get a Mini, I would maybe think about it.

    That setup *really* needs a gas block mounted front sight.
    I've been thinking about and have asked to be able to order this configuration for just about a month after the PDW came out,so I feel violated...lol.Anyway the AK has been like this for 60+ years with little or no problems.The weight balance has to be a HUGE benefit in handling.I also agree about the gas block mounted front sight,either dovetail or small picatinny rail,either would work.Aesthetics...I personally don't mind it.All I can say is if you don't like it ....don't get one.



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    Re: XCR new configuration

    I won't then!
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Here is an idea of what the Micro upper would look like with a full length Op Rod and both a 11" and 16" barrel.









    Me, I prefer without the Op Rod sticking out, at least with the Micro (though a 9" barrel might not be bad). It does however, make this 16" HBAR 6.8 barrel feel a little better when handling.
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    Re: XCR new configuration

    Went to the other site.....it doesn't look at bad as I originally thought it would.

    Meh.

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