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yep both guns came home this week and both are pretty much useless... For now ;D ;) :D

Don't have any rounds for the Bushmaster .450, and waiting on the scope for the AR-10 Super SASS to come home. The scope is backordered a month, an IOR 3-18x42 MP8 reticle, illuminated, 35mm high rings that come with the scope.



Armalite AR-10 SuperSASS. Basically a AR-10T with SS match grade barrel and many upgrades such as

- Adjustable gas system (to run suppressors),
- PRI-gas buster charging handle
- 2-stage Match Trigger
- Magpul PRS buttstock
- Sling mount

Extra's I added:
- ARMs 40L rear BUIS
- PRI front BUIS
- Harris Bipod adapter
- Harris Swivel Bipod
- IOR 3-18x42 scope (not pictured, back ordered)










Bushmaster .450 BM
- 16" 450 upper with Izzy FH, flatop and FF barrel.
- Bushaster lower
- Magpul CTR milspec buttstock kit
- King Arms scope mount
- Millet DMS-1 scope
- Promag front and rear BUIS.



 

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Useless guns are sometimes the most fun ones.

Things like a Webley-Fosbery auto-revolver or a Roth-Steyr cavalry pistol simply are fun to own in and of themselves. I mean, those things are cool!

Of course, things that aren't quite ready to use are fun, too. The anticipation of setting them up and seeing what they can do is also fun. By this definition, my Blaser rifle was more fun that a super-tanker full of monkeys since friggin' Sigarms kept me waiting for like 2 years for a usable scope mount, the bastards. See? Fun! Yeah.
 

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Hey EC,
My wife bought me an SASS for my wedding gift last year... I LOVE that gun. I had some accuracy and functional issues with with it initially and had to send it back to Armalite to get it worked out. Once I got it back, though it was as perfect as it should have been. Definitely sub-moa, and shoots soft. I truly don't know how good it is yet but will be running it in a precsion class at the end of this month. It definitely likes the ammo it likes and nothing else.

I'm not trying to hijack your post but you're the only person I've come across that has one so I'm very interested in hearing how yours does as far as accuracy and function goes, please keep me posted. I'd also love to know how you like that IOR as well. I've been intersted in getting one of those for my bolt gun.

Here's a pic of it.


Here's a couple of 3 shot groups from it. I shot these back to back. Now I'm no precision guy yet but I think the gun is a very capable weapon in the right hands. I hope to get to know it well during the class.



 

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Prism: You are anything but hijacking this thread. ;D Glad to find another person with a SuperSASS.

My first AR-10 was 6 months ago. it was a plain jane AR-10A4 with 16" barrel set up for CQB. Right out of the box it was reliable and accurate. It ate everything I gave it, and at 100 yards with an Eotech, I got 2" 5-shot-groups with FGMM ammo. I think with a high mag optic I could even do sub-moa! I am glad I did not listen to the naysayers about the AR-10, as this to me is the ultimate weapon (provided you have a cleaning kit and clean at least every 500 rounds or so ;D, if you have no cleaning kit, then the FAL is your only option). It is easy to handle, very ergonomically to shoot, reliable, and accurate.

I was impressed with that AR-10 so much that when I decided to get a semi-auto-sniper-system (SASS), the AR-10 was really my only choice. I liked the SASS version of the AR-10T becuase it has a lot of value in it. It comes with an adjustable gas system, a PRS stock, fully floated railed handguards, and a PRI gas buster charging handle. Not just that but the SS barrel is blackened, and it has a Flash hider too. It is a bargain compared to a plain jane AR-10T and if you add all this to your AR-10T, it probably would end up costing you more money.

BTW: Here is my first AR-10; an AR-10A4-CB with 16" Light Infantry Barrel ;):

 

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Only complaint I have about this weapon is it is heavy. But then again there is no way to get around this.

Total weight came to 16.1 lbs
Breakdowns like this:
- AR-10 rifle as pictured (minus the 10 round mag) - 12 lb 13oz
- M14 mag, fully loaded with 20 rounds of 168gr cartridges - 1lb 8oz (remember not all ammo weighs the same)
- High Milspec Steel scoperings (pair) - 8oz
- IOR 3-18x42 illuminated Scope - 21 oz

Basically, if you want a .308 semi auto weapon, with a free-float/bedded barrel, and you add bipod, back up iron sites, and a high mag scope, it will always be around 16 pounds fully loaded. No way getting around this.
 

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Yeah, I've never weighed mine but it is one heavy mofo. But I guess for the intended role it's ok. I've heard great things about the AR-10's and guys are reporting some great accuracy. I looked at the DPMS one at first and was actually pointing my wife in that direction but in the end it was the Armalite and I can't say I'm displeased. It looks a little beefier than the DPMS. I'm actually waiting on a POF 308 right now. Been 6 months. I'm hoping it won't be so heavy. It's got the 14.5 inch barrle. They are listed as 8lbs or so without any goodies. I have an IOR 1.1-4 waiting to go on it. That IOR I have is heavy so we'll have to see how crazy it gets. But that POF will not get a bipod.

That 16 inch you have sure looks good!!

Shoot me a message whenever you get to shoot that thing. I'm very interested to know how it does. By the way, mine loves the Federal 168 Gold medal match. Nothing else shoots worth a crap in it. I know it was supposed to be designed for 175gr 118LR stuff, but it hates it. I've tried tons of different 175gr, and various 168gr, like Black Hills, Remington, Fiocchi, but the Federal just stacks the shots. The others are all over the place. Yours may be very different, though.
 

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Federal Gold Medal Match (FGMM) is the ultimate. It is strange how one cartridge could be good for all rifles, no matter the action type, or barrel length. I am trying to find a formula to match it. Actually I think I found it but have not tested it yet:
- 168 grain Sierra Matchking
- 43.6 gr of IMR 4895
- LC brass
Link here: http://home.earthlink.net/~dannewberry/dannewberrysoptimalchargeweightloaddevelopment/index.html

As for the scope, I had my eye on the IOR 3-18x42 for a long time. It looks kick ass, has a 35mm tube, has a 6-1 mag ratio (no other scope has a 6:1 ratio), uses the same glass as S&B, and is fairly light in weight for what it does.
 

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Hhhhmmm... those are some highly interesting facts about that IOR. S&B glass huh? Post pics soon as you get that daddy set up. :) If you don't mind me asking, how much does that scope run?
 

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That scope goes for $1500 now. But I found a guy who still has the old price of $1325, only thing is I have to wait a month (or longer) for it as he is backorded through IOR. IOR owes him some scoped he ordered before they became out of stock and the price increase. The price increase is directly related to some import tax from Romania which was not charged before. Who knows, IOR could be feeding us a bunch of BS just so they can raise the price.
 
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