[TerraShrewsbury]

The 7.62 magazines were a bit tough to get just right. It will take two full magazines emptied to break in the 30 rd magazines. After that, they will function smoothly.


We don't have a huge stockpile of the magazines this first time around. Kits and rifles will ship with one magazine per order. Those of you wanting more than that can keep them on backorder until we have a larger surplus. As for a group buy - Alex is not around this week, and I still have not had a moment to discuss it with him. I will keep you updated.

 

[MrSmitty]

What about the break in for our neutered 30 rounders going to Canada? Will they have to be emptied about 12 times to break them in as they will be blocked to hold 5 rounds?

 

[sterling99]

What is a "clip"?

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

lol dammit i did it again...


quiet, you.

 

[roughneck2zero]

Are these the SS mags like c-products is making? They're backordered too.

 

[magikbullet]

what is there to 'break in' on a magazine?

do you just mean they're tight?

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

yes, the tension is very tight. We found after loading and emptying the magazines a couple times, it was all smooth traveling from there.


Smitty - I don't know. I would guess you wouldn't have to worry about it, since you'll have such fewer rounds.


We get our magazines from C Products, yes... so when you are back ordered with them, so are we.

 

[magikbullet]

i wonder if you can use a maglula with them.

terra do you guys have one around to see if it works?

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

Don't think so...

 

[Guest]

Hate to be a party pooper, but that sounds like a magazine that I would not use for anything other than range work.

in short... Unacceptable.

this kind of crap is only going to make the XCR's already tenuous reputation (some folks dont like the idea of a 300 round break-in, and subsequent locktiting session apparently) even worse.

my question is, why the heck would I spend for 10 magazines then have to shoot another 900 rounds to break those in, then verify that they are indeed running properly with another 900 rounds, when I can buy an really good AK and it's $14 magazines that work right out of the box.

this whole proprietary magazine is a real turn off for this caliber. I understand the design limitations of the gun, but enough with the "we need you to break the thing in" crap already.

quite frankly the "accuracy potential" of the XCR over the AK is not nearly enough to get me to spend ~$1150 for a conversion kit, mags, and enough ammo to verify the thing actually works. I can get a custom AK built that will shoot almost as good as the pre production reports for that money and KNOW my mags will work and the gun will run no matter what.

Once again guys, sorry to be a party pooper, but I'm calling BULLSHIT on this one.

 

[magikbullet]

I can understand the frustration jackasol, but when I saw load and unload the mag, I didn't take that to mean you have to actually shoot the ammo you're loading and unloading in it...

regardless, I hope this conversion and mags are reliable.

 

[aziator]

I hardly see the mags as a proprietary thing for the xcr alone. If I recall correctly the guys at C-products have tons of these on order for people shooting something other than an XCR. There has been a need for these mags for a while and the XCr isn't the only platform that will use it. They sound like my first run samples I got from H&K, stiff at first, load and unload a few times and they are fine. I am sure that C-products will stand behind them if they don't function as advertised.

 

[variablebinary]

then verify that they are indeed running properly

You should be doing this for every magazine, and gun product in your poession, regardless of who makes it or what the gun platform is

Run untested equipment at your own peril...

 

[magikbullet]

then verify that they are indeed running properly

You should be doing this for every magazine, and gun product in your poession, regardless of who makes it or what the gun platform is

Run untested equipment at your own peril...

sage advice.

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

I am not saying they won't work - I'm just saying they will only work * perfectly* after they've been worn in just a little. I don't know what else to tell you guys. :dontknow:

 

[EricCartmann]

You should be doing this for every magazine, and gun product in your poession, regardless of who makes it or what the gun platform is

Run untested equipment at your own peril...

So now we have to break in first before we test? I myself like to test from the get go, and not after the break in period. To me breaking in a gun is already crazy, but breaking in mags is absolute lunacy.

Lately I have very good luck with mags, The 40 or so I tested in the past 2 years all ran perfect from the get go. All have at least 60 rounds through them without issues.

 

[Guest]

all mags get tested. period. if they dont work 100% from the getgo then they are either trashed or put in the "training use only" bin. If I cant trust them from the beginning then I cant trust them EVER.

It sound like these mags would all get put into the training use only category and leave the gun with no reliable and proven mags. actual testing will verify how reliable the mags actually are tho.

with this being break-in being a requirement you can double damn bet that someone will not get the word on this and take it to a class where it will fail miserably. It's already happened several times with the regular XCR 556 where users wont or dont break it in and locktite everything and then give shitty range reports. all this crap adds up and gives a poor reputation to the company and the gun.

This is bad bad bad bad bad for Robinson, even if they are not the designers of the mag.

trust me, the gun will get the blame.

 

[variablebinary]

all mags get tested. period. if they dont work 100% from the getgo then they are either trashed or put in the "training use only" bin. If I cant trust them from the beginning then I cant trust them EVER.

It sound like these mags would all get put into the training use only category and leave the gun with no reliable and proven mags. actual testing will verify how reliable the mags actually are tho.

with this being break-in being a requirement you can double damn bet that someone will not get the word on this and take it to a class where it will fail miserably. It's already happened several times with the regular XCR 556 where users wont or dont break it in and locktite everything and then give shitty range reports. all this crap adds up and gives a poor reputation to the company and the gun.

This is bad bad bad bad bad for Robinson, even if they are not the designers of the mag.

trust me, the gun will get the blame.

Generially speaking, if you dont do a function check on a piece of firearm related equipment, then run it, and if fails, you're an idiot.

Call it break in, or whatever the hell, but I run at least 3-5 mags worth of ammo through an NIB mag before taking it to class or CCW. I dont care if it is Glock, Magpul, HK or whatever the hell. Either it passes muster or it doesnt. I'm not changing my routine, I would be subjecting these mags to the same process I would any other mag.

Personally I dont really believe in mag break in when it comes to function. Perhaps for loading, but not functioning. The mags work or they dont.

 

[EricCartmann]

I don't like the angle of the bend.. it is too extreme. 30 round AK mags has a gradual bend... Also the look is hideous. I would rather see 20 round 762x39 mags.

 

[variablebinary]

I don't like the angle of the bend.. it is too extreme. 30 round AK mags has a gradual bend... Also the look is hideous. I would rather see 20 round 762x39 mags.

Agreed. I would like to see a 25 rounder with a 5.45x39 AK mag contour