[stmcelroy]

I find the folding tube stock to be about a 1/2-3/4" to long. Is there any way to shorten it?

Can I drive the pin(s) out and just cut the tubes? I would then have to drill the holes for the roll pin.


Does going to a folder with Buffer Tube and Magpul CTR make the stock much shorter?

Thanks,
Steve

 

[dont_tread_on_me]

What's your length of pull now? I have a Caa collapsable on the m4 folding mechanism and fully collapsed it's exactly 13.5 inches from the face of the trigger to the middle of the buttpad.The buttpad is slightly angled being a touch shorter at the bottom.I find that to be too short without any body armor,but would probably be about right with it.I use it on the first position,unless I'm shooting prone.
I think the tube folder on the XCR is the same as the kind Ace makes.You'll have to check if the bolt pattern is the same,if so you can order different length stocks from them.Hope this helps.

 

[stmcelroy]

LOP is right at 13.25" from middle of folding stock butt pad to the middle surface of the trigger.

I'm going to shoot it as is and see how it works for me. I guess I just want it shorter like my 14.5" AR15.

 

[dont_tread_on_me]

I suppose I could shave some off the buffer tube to take off maybe a half inch.I have about that much thread more than I need past the M4 folding adapter.Try Ace's website they might have what you need.

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

we have 1" shorter versions, you know.

 

[Bravo]

Yeah, and I might be able to be talked out of my 1" shorter tubular stock.

Just so I can keep 'em all the same.

FWIW, I have the buffer tubes turned down too - my machinist works for beer ;D

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

cheap labor, but done by a drunken machinist... sounds scary. ;D

 

[DSM]

we have 1" shorter versions, you know.

Where are these shorter stocks you speak of?! I was gonna do what the OP said and just cut her down but I'm too lazy. No, I'd like to have a spare anyways, what's the going rate for them?

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

well, if your stock is in excellent condition, we can do an exchange for ya.

 

[DSM]

uhhhh, not unless you consider a dark earth moly coat to be excellent condition?


Might just hold out for the new stock and see if it fits the bill for me....if you're saying it's worth wait?

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

from what i seen, it's going to be well worth the wait. Will probably get one for myself.

 

[dont_tread_on_me]

How much do you want for the folder? I might be interested.

 

[DSM]

DTOM

I need to wait to see what the new stock offers. Otherwise I'll have a rifle without a stock!

 

[dont_tread_on_me]

That's kool,I'm in no hurry.I too am anxiously awaiting the new stock.I'm keeping my fingers crossed it's not as ugly as that monstrosity on the S.C.A.R .I'm sure it's functional,but not only does it look way to bulky,but in my opinion,it's just plain out FUGLY.
One reason I have been contemplating the folder for the XCR,is that I like the narrow buttplate/pad footprint my AK folder has on it,and was thinking it might work nice on the XCR for certain applications.The reason I don't have one is I like the length of pull adjustments afforded by collapsable types.Not so much for myself,but the ability to easily adjust for others with shorter arms is a plus.
The downside with a folder is that cheekwelds are usually less than ideal,that I've found at least.Everything is a compromise.Hopefully the new stock will be the best of all things combined,kind of like the XCR!!

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

oh god no. It looks nothing like....


DUN DUN DUN

 

[Martens]

Bck to the original question, can a person drive out the roll pin and cut the stock to the length they want? It would be easier and cheaper even than swapping with Robinson--no shipping.

I am using my folder right now while my CTR is at the machine shop. He is machining the slots for the cheek riser into one continuous slot. I have already filled the locating tabs off the front of the cheek riser. When it is all done, the cheek riser will be able to slid along the stock and always be up against the rear of the receiver regardless of stock length. If things get a little loose, we will epoxy the front of the riser to the castel nut or rear of the stock block.

For the time being, a section of pipe insulation from LOWES makes a nice cheek riser for the folder. It fits tight and the adhesive helps keep it in place, yet does not mess up the finish of the flat portion of the stock. Here's a couple of pics:


To fold the stock, the insulation gives enough and allows you to push the button through the insulation.

I got to clear one alarm call with it yesterday and shot one mag at night with it yesterday at work and I have to say it felt like I was picking up the dot faster and it was always better centered in the tube.

I checked one of my ACE buttpads and it looks to be a perfect match.

 

[TerraShrewsbury]

yes, it is possible to shorten them - however, there is one road block. The ends that would need to be ground - the ends that go into the stock side hinge - are JB welded in there. And if it's one of my stocks, there's a good amount of JB weld holding those tubes in.