[smschulz]

True it gets better with use. Heck, I didn't even know it was a two stage until after 500 rds. It is still a little too much IMO. I was wondering if anyone has experience with it?

 

[magikbullet]

http://xcrforum.com/index.php?topic=115.0

http://xcrforum.com/index.php?topic=139.0

bill springfield is your man

 

[bolster]

Yes, Bill Springfield is the best thing that ever happened to my XCR's trigger. Well worth the money.

 

[Aussie Arms]

and he's cheap to boot. This type of modification should cost much, much more!

 

[va_plinker]

True it gets better with use. Heck, I didn't even know it was a two stage until after 500 rds. It is still a little too much IMO. I was wondering if anyone has experience with it?

I didn't know that until reading your post. I'm just under 300 rounds.

I took out the rifle and dry fired it a few times... The pull is not too bad for me, but it is only a single stage. ???

Thinking about how smschulz mentioned it gets better with use I separated the lower and dry fired (making sure the hammer was being caught by my thumb and not striking the lower) a number of times. After a little bit I realized it was two stage, but not consistently. As it stands now, I get a two stage trigger about half the time. I can't tell if there is a significant difference in the pull needed for stage one and two.

What should I expect from a trigger job?

 

[gunner69]

Send your lower to Bill Springfield. I tried mine today and it is SWEET with "almost" a single stage trigger. Best $49.00 I EVER spent. Now instead of a "cluster" I get a ragged hole. Gunner69

 

[smschulz]

I sent mine in yesterday...I'm excited about getting a trigger quality for a fine weapon.

 

[tzoid]

Where is Bill Springfield ? do you have to send the entire gun to him or just the trigger ?

 

[smschulz]

Where is Bill Springfield ? do you have to send the entire gun to him or just the trigger ?

T , he is in Colorodo Springs.

[hr]
Excerpt from my email from him:

Subject: Re: Trigger Job Information Request

Hi Steve,

I can be reached at 719-648-5725 after 5pm Mtn. For the XCR, I only need
the lower receiver less the buttstock assembly, price runs $49 and this
includes priority return postage. I can get it to around 4.5 lbs with a
clean break, all creep eliminated. Turn around time is 24 to 48 hours,
my address is:

Bill Springfield
4135 Cricket Ct.
Colorado Springs, Co 80918

Thanks!
Bill
[hr]

 

[gunner69]

Hey T, You send him the Lower minus the stock. You WILL be VERY happy spending $49.00 (only) for this. If Alex had him at the factory........ I think a good trigger would sell more guns. My gun now breaks, like Glass, at around 4-4.5 pounds. ALMOST a single stage pull. Anybody with an XCR who doesen't do the trigger will NEVER see the full potential of the weapon. >

 

[magikbullet]

gunner has seen the light, and it is good

his reaction to bill's work over the last few days was exactly like mine when I
first got my ptr91's trigger back from bill... with the xcr I knew what to expect

 

[smschulz]

I think a good trigger would sell more guns.

I couldn't agree more...for me the guns I enjoy the most are the ones I shoot the best. A good trigger is an instrumental part of this equation.

Anybody with an XCR who doesn't do the trigger will NEVER see the full potential of the weapon. >

I can't wait for mine.

 

[sterling99]

I just got off the phone with Bill. Very nice guy and he will be getting my lower Fed-Ex on Monday.

 

[kolob]

I'm glad you guys are finding sources for trigger jobs. We have spent the last several weeks designing a completely new trigger system. We did tons of math and testing lots of other rifles. We've come up with what we think will be perfect. We estimate that the initial pull will be a couple pounds before you hit the disconnect.

I'll try to get it prototyped as soon as possible and let you know the results. Perhaps I'll make a few and let some of the ardent fans test these and give a report. Getting them into production will not be overnight. I just wanted you all to know that we're following up on our promise to get it going.

I'm very happy that others are doing trigger jobs. My only worry is safety - will the the trigger job cause the rifle to fire if the rifle is jarred or dropped. We test the rifles by putting a primered cartridge in the chamber and dropping the rifle from 5' onto a 1/4" steel plate over concrete. This is the military test. The SAAMI test is about 4' on a rubber mat over concrete.

I just hope that you all and the guys doing the work are careful, understand the safety concerns, and do safety testing.

We have also shipped a lower receiver and trigger parts to Williams Triggers. This is not an endorsement of their work. They asked for the parts and we sent them some.

Thanks for all your input.

Sincerely,

Alex J. Robinson

 

[va_plinker]

:toast:

 

[magikbullet]

Good to hear about the new trigger prototype alex!

As far as safety with the trigger job goes, I've used snap caps and hit the butt on the ground pretty hard repeatedly and jostled the rifle to make sure the sear didn't release or any other problems-and didn't detect any issues... I don't know if I'm ready to drop my baby 5 feet on to concrete (on purpose) yet ;D

If you need any beta testers, I'd be happy to help out :crossedfingers:

 

[Juicespeare1]

Kolob/Alex,

I'd like to be the first to volunteer my services to test the new trigger design out.

Send me a PM when you want to start this.

BR
Juicespeare1

 

[sterling99]

I sent my lower out to him today for work. Does anyone know his email address? I would like to ask him if he could tighten the bolt release while it is there. Is that even possible? It just rattles a little bit, nothing major but would like to have it on tight.

 

[Aussie Arms]

Bill's e-mail should be: [email protected] Corrected it should read: [email protected]

He should get back to you pretty soon.

Good luck!

 

[sterling99]

Email sent. You are very helpful sir!