I303, you are correct, the ATF raid was a snitch based raid, i think we both know who it was, someone in trouble that i trying to get the heat off himself. Got this info from AZ today, i wont say much more but i think time will tell allInteresting. Tom Mangan did choose his words wisely and used the proper termonology. Now that I've seen his face to his name I do remember seeing him a few times. ATF are the red headed step children in Fed and Local LEO Agencies b/c there are many pro 2nd Amendment LEO's. At least in AZ.
The big question that I have and what was NOT mentioned, what was the Search and Seizure warrant for. When we do ours (BP/ICE) we would at least state "We are conducting the S&S warrant for XYZ reason" to the press, "The warrant is for aliens ... yada, yada..." We will have to see what develops here. I know judges are picky as hell when it comes to us getting warrants, probably because we flood the fed courts with our cases. They just come shy of us being required to have a video of guys saying "I'm an illegal" then run into a building closing and locking the door. So do they get less picky with other agencies like ATF? This seems to be snitch based. I've heard rumors that it may be the case based on the arrest of a former employee. But this is just speculation on my part.
Wish them luck,err.... wait, no I don't!
I'm gonna come out and say that not all ATF guys are Nazi zealots. ATF is strife with management issues and those trying to make cases out of BS. Ask many FFL holders and they'll tell you the same. Many are cool, most just do the minimum and collect a pay check, but there is always that 'one' who may be as far out to think the 2nd is some sort of priviledge. Unfortunately those are the ones that seem to advance. Upper level management is always pushing ATF guys to make headline cases.
I know of one BP guy that went ATF and back to the BP. I haven't spoken to him since he came back but I heard plenty from others who also know him. They tend to like to hire new Agents right out of college. I know those types all to well b/c we also get them here. You'd be amazed how they don't have a clue about the 2nd Amendment and I always say something if they do the "OMG! Is that legal?". They also seem to be Cali born and raised and they actually don't know gun laws period!
I used to think Mexican Consulate Officers as the worse for us in the BP. That was until I met one Mexican Consular Officer, he holds dual citizenship, former MO cop for many years, left the US and got a job with the Mexican consulate just so he would get out of paying alimony to his wife, he does pay child support by his choice. But got the typical screw job always handed to men here in the US. And he is the last guy any Mexican in BP custody would want to see. That is unless it is truly warranted.
For me to be ATF it would be a big conflict of interest akin as to someone coming in to the BP after being raised their whole life in Mexico. It wouldn't work out.