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Were gonna go over there and get them Al Quida ,they ain't coming here and hurting any Americans ,no sir.
Its like he says ,we will stop them or any other Country from getting inside our Borders.
Now we just give up a few of our rights a little bit and trust him and it will all be OK!!!
Man he has a real good bead on things don't he??
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This probably wont even make the local news either. It is sad...When I was in AZ I looked at the life of the BP agents and thought about maybe switching over but they are treated like second class citizens by their own government. At least in Iraq I get to shoot back if I feel my life is threatened.
 

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That is indeed sad. I'll bet some of those Mexican military guys are being paid by the Drug cartel to "escort" items across the border. What other industrialized nation in the world allows regular armed incursions by a foreign, military unit? What the hell is the matter with our government? We will follow terrorists to the ends of the Earth and topple governments yet we just pay lip service to our porous border with Mexico? I just don't get it. ???
 

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Going after terrorists and toppling governments is more exciting than patching fences? :2cents:
 

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Mexican Military Incursion
(08/05/2008)


On August 03, 2008, a Significant Incident Report (SIR) was generated from the Tucson Sector detailing an encounter with members of the Mexican military. The Mexican military personnel entered the United States and held a Border Patrol agent at gunpoint approximately 46 feet north of the international border west of Papago Farms. Papago Farms is located southwest of Tucson, Arizona.

The agent, who was patrolling in a marked Border Patrol vehicle, was held at gunpoint by four members of the Mexican military. The Mexican soldiers, who were armed with long arms, ordered the agent not to move and questioned him regarding his presence in the area. The agent identified himself as an agent and called for assistance. The agent was held at gunpoint for approximately four minutes until the arrival of additional agents on scene. At that point, the four Mexican soldiers crossed the border back into Mexico.

A short while later, two of the Mexican soldiers re-crossed the international boundary into the United States, and a standoff ensued which lasted an additional six minutes. When questioned regarding their presence in the area, one of the soldiers told agents that they were working narcotics interdiction operations and that they believed they were south of the International Boundary. The Mexican soldiers were shown the IWBC markers, the location of the permanent vehicle barriers, and the survey stakes delineating the construction corridor in the United States; however they denied that they were inside the U.S.

The incident is currently being investigated by OBP and contact has been made with officials of the Mexican military and diplomatic officials of the Government of Mexico.

Based on statistical data relayed from the Southwest Border Division, from October 01, 2006, through July 27, 2007, there were 17 incursions of foreign government officials into the United States between the Ports of Entry on the southwest border. This fiscal year through July 27, 2008, there have been 40 cross border incursions. These incursions include those by military units or another federal, state or local agency. This reflects a 135 percent increase.
Agents should remain vigilant and report any contact with the Mexican military to their respective chains of command.
 

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There is a bit more to the story. When the CIT team arrived, supervisor's, and the Mexican commander, the Mexican commander insisted that the BP agent was in MExico trying to smuggle dope (really wild and out of nowhere allegation) then pointed at some tire tracks saying that it was the BP vehicle. Well there was a little problem with that. All BP guys looked at each other and had that "Is this guy for real?" look on their face. They pointed out that the tire signed looked about 3 weeks old, waaaay old and the Agent yelled out, "What the fuck. That's not my sign and if it were it's still in the US!" and pointed at the fence a few feet away. The Mexican commander got silent mad and turned around and walked away. The situation was truly fucked up, but the consensus was that even though guns were pointed, more them than us, the Agents felt that they weren't really commited to further their stupidity. There is more but the above posted story covers most of it.
 

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That Suburban doesn't look too good. Can't imagine 19 people inside that thing while it was flopping around.

 

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19 people, that must be the automotive equivlent of packing peanuts.
 

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This crap has gone on for far too long. I say we extend our border with mexico, plant claymores and scatterables across the border and just sit back and watch the fun play out. HAHAHA!!
 

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The stupifd thing is that the Us economy needs more consumers. I say let them in...BUT. No social until they have paid taxes for a year. Maybe then the ones who want to work and contribute will outweigh the others. Right now it's too hard for them to get in legally, that's why so many do so illegally.
 

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I don't think they should be here at all , they are rapidly changing this country into a copy of the toilet they left.
There is no sense for Mexico to be in the shape it is ,they have all the natural resources , a mild climate , lots of Beaches , they are like that because they are corrupt.
They are born corrupt , taught to be corrupt , they inbreed , some of them have so many kids they cant even remember their names.
Thats OK ,we wi8ll be seeing a lot of this in the coming weeks now. No more screwing around.
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What gets me is that the illegals are renters and not home owners. Here in Texas, since we do not have an income tax, money for schools, hospitals, utility districts etc come from property (real estate) taxes. The illegals put a tremendous burden on these entities yet they contribute nothing to them. Our car insurance is also extremely high in Houston because 25% of all drivers have no car insurance even though it is mandated by the state. This sounds bad but I would bet a large portion of that 25% are illegals.
 

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I saw a Suburban over near Roswell full of wets get hit by a Train , Not good.
They were all drunk and didn't even stop at the crossing , the train was going 70 MPH and it still took it 2 miles to stop.
 

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Oh well, less filth in the world.
I think that people who have so much hate in them aren't particularly great either. You may think that you are gods gift to the world and everyone else is filth but fortunately for everyone else the world does not revolve around you.

Particularly, your comment falls squarely in the category of bigotry which is specifically against the rules of the forum: http://xcrforum.com/index.php/topic,4.0.html

All people, everywhere, are just trying to live a better life. You can stereotype an entire race or nation and blame all of your problems on them or you can look at this objectively and realize that if we weren't letting them in or not giving them enough incentives to come then maybe you wouldn't hate them so much.

If you hate other peoples desire to live a better life than I think you have some serious issues.

You don't have to hate people to not want them in your playground. Hate the system which forces them to come here (and allows them to come on our end), not the people trying to survive.

Bad people come in all shapes, sizes, skin colors and nationalities.
 

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Not all illegals are crimminals, other than the illegal entry bit. There are many who work hard and pay taxes. How many Americans do you see planting fields, or doing menial labor. some of them are fighting for their families and that has to be respected no matter what you think about immigration. They are willing to be apart and shovel shit to feed their kids.
 

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Not all illegals are crimminals, other than the illegal entry bit. There are many who work hard and pay taxes. How many Americans do you see planting fields, or doing menial labor. some of them are fighting for their families and that has to be respected no matter what you think about immigration. They are willing to be apart and shovel shit to feed their kids.
I dont have an issue with immigration. Illegal immigration is a problem however. Utah has a huge illegal problem, and with it comes a serious drain on my tax dollars, and public safety. People who obey the law to get here are more inclined to value the chance given.

Mexicans need to be held to the same standard we hold the English, or Germans, or Japanese or Brazilians. Just because we share a common border, doesnt mean they get a pass.

Personally, I think we should have put military on the border ever since the Alamo.
 
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