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Well since I spent a lot of money on purchasing my XCR I want to buy a scope, but can't offered anything expensive (under $100).

I was thinking of the 4 reticle 30mm by target sports for 49.00 on CDNN. What do you guys think? I'm new to this so any advice is appreciated.
 

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I'll say this, optics are THE area to not skimp on... my suggestion would be to shoot your rifle with the irons and save up for something like an eotech or search the equipment exchange on places like arfcom to find a deal on a used, reputable optic.
 

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Personally I'd just shoot with irons until I could afford a decent optic.

I plan to shoot irons on mine for a while anyway... been shooting optics exclusively for a while, and need a break back to "reality". :)
 

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I have a couple of these: http://www.bushnell.com/general/riflescopes_trophy_73-0135.cfm

You can buy here or maybe Aussie can get you a better deal: http://www.swfa.com/pc-4969-198-bushnell-1x28-trophy-greenred-dot-sight.aspx

They're OK so long as you don't change the reticle after sighting in.

In other words, for close up stuff, change the reticle as much as you want, but for longer shots 50-75+ yards, changing the reticle can/will change your point of impact.

There are four different reticles to choose from:

1.) 3 MOA dot
2.) 10 MOA dot
3.) PLUS
4.) CIRCLE/DOT 65 MOA Circle (? I think ?) with 3 MOA (this is definite) dot inside circle.

There are several brightness setting per color RED/GREEN, I think 5 per color.

I've found the brightness of the RED in bright daylight more than enough, the GREEN is good at night or low light.

The different reticles are chosen by rotating a knob on the left hand side of the sight. This basically mechanically cams the different reticle patterns. Unfortunately, as you move the knob, you can see the position of the reticle move a bit in the sight, hence my warning about changing point of impact. For close in this won't have much of an impact on POI, but farther out, you bet it will.

I tend to prefer either the 3 MOA dot or the CIRCLE/DOT as the dot is 3 MOA in either case.

I'd say look through it, see which reticle pattern you like the best and stick with it. Then you don't have to worry about POI changes.

I haven't done any scientific testing of the changes in POI between the different reticle patterns, but I suspect it's at least a couple of MOA at 100 yards.

BTW - The rings are difficult to use, I don't like vertical split rings for some reason.
 

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If you scimp on optics you WILL regret it later on. You aren't going to get anything worth having that will last for under $100. You simply won't.

Best thing to do would be to find a used M2 or M3. Failing that, you may want to try and find an OEG. They generally run somewhat less than look-through red dots.
 

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The Bushnell Trophy Green/Red Dot sight I can get to you for $81.00 plus actual shipping costs.

But in my humble opinion I too would suggest that you wait and save you pennies for a better optic. My way of thinking is "why pay $1400.00+ for a great rifle only to put a cheap optic on it" it defeats the purpose of buying a good rifle.
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1- there is no such thing as a 'cheap' scope. it costs you in the end.
2-if you have irons then go ahead and get good with them and save up for a few months to get that dream scope. you will never regret it and shooting your irons for that long will make you realize how little you actually NEED the scope.
3-the burris is a fine optic and quite possibly the best bang for the buck on the market even if the dot is a bit large.
4-the new aimpoints might be really nice and the newest micro version is really slick (even at @$600)
5-personally i really like the Leupold 1.5-5x20 for this platform and caliber http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-...copes/mark-4-1-5-5x20mm-mrt-m2-illum-reticle/
it has a nice combination of fast target aquisition at low power yet enough magnification for long range work and a great illuminated reticle. this would be my first choice reccomendation for the dollar. it has a 30 mm tube for light transmission and a BDC dial for you load as well.
6- I went with the US optics 1-4x24 sn12 scope. it's much heavier and almost 50% more in price. I'm not sure I gained anything by going this route so I wouldnt reccomend it to the average scope user. at almost 2 pounds it is built like a friggin tank tho!!
7-learn from my mistake grasshopper
 

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Attila, DON'T buy a cheap scope to put on your expensive rifle! I learned my lession in Yeager (Hunting) School in Germany. Our German Instructor had a sporterized WWII 8mm Mauser......... with a $2,000.00 Zeis Scope! We had a Army Col. with a rifle worth several thousand dollars......... you guessed it.... a $79.95 Tasco scope. At the range that old Kraut outshot the Col. by a long shot. I saved my money and purchased several expensive scopes that still serve me well 28 years later. And the older I get the more important that lesson, as my eyes need all the help they can get. If it doesn't cost AT Least $300.00 keep saving. You might brouse midway.com as they have a rating system, by the users, that gives you a pretty good idea if it's "worth a shit." Save your money and you won't have to depend on something that might work when you need it. Good Luck
 

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+1 on buying good glass. I was makin due with cheap, relatively at $350, binoculars until I broke down and bought my first pair of Swarovskis. Now I own two and am thinking of adding another.

BTW, I use mine for hunting and the theatre. One is a 8.5x42 EL and the other is the 10x25 compacts. Both are exceptionally clear and bright.

In rifle scopes I have some Busnells on my .22s but everything else has high end Leupolds and ACOGs.
 

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Attilla, Listen to SigRules good (as in Excellent) are worth EVERY penny you spend. Check your close shooting friends out.... cheap shit versis quality. Shoot both...... it will become apparant in no time at all. Clarity and utter dependability has it'd price....and it's worth it!!! Gunner
 

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Good call on the Swarovskis. They make outstanding glass.

I remember when I got mine, I compared them with a friend's Steiners. He had a new set of Swarovskis a month later.

Good glass is a true investment. Don't forget to keep an eye out for used scopes. Deals are out there, but you do need to know what you're looking at.
 
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