EAGLE EYES NEEDED

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1redgmc

Discussion Starter · Jan 15, 2008

OK EAGLE EYES... help me out.

This pic was taken by my son a few weeks ago, as they were leaving to take these fine gents to an Easter Egg Hunt.

What do you think the pistol is that the fellow on the left (with the MP5) has on his chest rig? Quite a variety of weapons on this ride...

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SWEEP

· #2 · Jan 15, 2008

looks like a sig possibly a 226 ? maybe a 220

1redgmc

Discussion Starter · #3 · Jan 15, 2008

That's what I thought (P220) but I tried to compare mine, in a similar view - and it didn't quite seem right.

aziator

· #4 · Jan 15, 2008

I am going with a SIG...Is that a joint Op?

1redgmc

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jan 15, 2008

aziator said:
I am going with a SIG...Is that a joint Op?

Yup... well... kinda joint... joint with ISF and our boyz providing oversight.

They go out at night and bring back known bad guys.

i303

· #6 · Jan 15, 2008

Definitely a Sig backstrap. Too fat to be a 220, and too big to be a P229, so I'd say P226. Most likely in 9mm since he's toting an MP5. Looks to have tritiums rear sights as if the only time you'd see them w/o tritiums is at a US gunstore.

If I screwed that pooch ID the gun, I won't screw the next when I'd say that they are inside of a CH-53(D or E or whatever) Sea Stallion. ;D

***Edited to add*** Beretta M9A1. 92/96 are fat guns. I didn't realize Berreta put horizontal serrations on the "A1" M9's.

http://products.berettausa.com/dett...File=images/immagini_maxi/M9A1_small_maxi.jpg

aziator

· #7 · Jan 15, 2008

1redgmc said:
aziator said:

I am going with a SIG...Is that a joint Op?

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Yup... well... kinda joint... joint with ISF and our boyz providing oversight.

They go out at night and bring back known bad guys.

Yeah, we used to go out with 2 Chinooks and come back with them packed full of guys wearing black sacks on their heads. You have to be careful with those joint ISF missions, we had 2 seperate "Negligent Discharges" of an RPG at Apaches. At least that is what the guy shooting the RPG told us.

ny32182

· #8 · Jan 15, 2008

Sig? Not sure what you guys are looking at, it looks unmistakably like a Glock to me... ???

aziator

· #9 · Jan 15, 2008

I was going to originally say glock since that is what is issued to the ISF but these guys look a little more "specialized" and there was a little shine to it, leading me to believe not a plastic gun.

Aussie Arms

· #10 · Jan 15, 2008

Well,

IMHO it is a Sig Sauer Elite with the beaver tail frame most probably in 9mm.

These are way cool with the Short Reset Trigger, and if I were going to play in the sand box, that's what I would be carrying! That trigger is the best thing to come out of Sig in a long time!

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aziator

· #11 · Jan 15, 2008

I just dont see Iraqi security forces carrying a Sig like that. They have Glocks coming out of the woodworks over there, with a handfull of units getting some Sigs

tk

· #12 · Jan 15, 2008

I have a first-generation 226 (about 20 years old) -- and that's what it looks like from behind.

The glock probably makes more sense, though.

tk

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Aussie Arms

· #13 · Jan 15, 2008

But I can clearly see a beaver tail, unless the Operator has had his frame modified for his Glock?

aziator

· #14 · Jan 15, 2008

My vote is still an older sig

ny32182

· #15 · Jan 15, 2008

The back plate on the slide is 100% Glock, as is the "gap" above the bottom of the magazine... and I don't see any sort of big beavertail, just the little mini-lip that is present on a Glock.

There is no Sig hammer present. The back of the slide is the dead giveaway. It is the back end of a Glock slide, no question.

aziator

· #16 · Jan 15, 2008

I knew something was stickout out at me, the missing hammer. That may be a slide on rubber grip that is making it look like vertical serrations??

The shine under the slight beavertail is what made me think non plastic pistol

Aussie Arms

· #17 · Jan 15, 2008

Ok, I stand corrected, again! LOL

Yes the back of the slide is a give-a-way to be a glock. It's funny how people see what they want to in photos. If I had a choice I would be carrying a Sig for sure! a P220 Elite

1redgmc

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 15, 2008

i303 said:
Definitely a Sig backstrap. Too fat to be a 220, and too big to be a P229, so I'd say P226. Most likely in 9mm since he's toting an MP5. Looks to have tritiums rear sights as if the only time you'd see them w/o tritiums is at a US gunstore.

If I screwed that pooch ID the gun, I won't screw the next when I'd say that they are inside of a CH-53(D or E or whatever) Sea Stallion. ;D

***Edited to add*** Beretta M9A1. 92/96 are fat guns. I didn't realize Berreta put horizontal serrations on the "A1" M9's.

http://products.berettausa.com/dett...File=images/immagini_maxi/M9A1_small_maxi.jpg

I'm inclined to agree with P226, but the Glock argument posted by NY is also solid. I dunno, but it has made for interesting dialogue.

That dude is supposedly US operative - not ISF, as most of the ISF carry AK's

Hell, I've got some pics somewhere of some ISF with mag lights duct taped to their AK's and one dude wearing sweat pants and a t-shirt because his laundry was still wet when they got the call...

I also have some nice pics of about (12) special guests with bags on their heads, but not something for posting here...

No pooch screwed, as you have the right airframe...

But it is the back of a USAF MH53 Pavelow... I'm pretty sure it is a M model... but there are a few J's out there as well...

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Prizm

· #19 · Jan 15, 2008

I saw this this morning but didn't comment cause of lack of info about these operatives. I've taken the photo and blown it up and I believe it's a Glock. If you look that the smoothness of the backstrap, width of the frame, and the narrower slide and the look of the sights, it's clearly a Glock.

1redgmc

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jan 15, 2008

Maybe a vote would have been a better way to present this thread - but we seem to have consensus (and a lot of emphasis) on it being a Glock versus a Sig. I'm convinced... that after looking at it (again and again) that it is indeed a Glock.

The other weapons are no-brainers, but what do you say the configuration of the sniper rifle is to the right?

i303 - I take it that you used to ride on 53's?

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