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Both forged and cast can be, and most often are, machined (cnc or otherwise) as part of finishing off the product. Both leave pretty nasty looking surfaces. It is normal to cut at least the mating surfaces back into the better material in the interior, so that these surfaces are smooth, clean, and true.

Cast or forged does not result in a finished part that is ready for assembly.
Most of the benefit of casting is in reducing wasted material and the labor involved in cutting that material away. Casting provides a piece that is much closer to being finished, but it still has to be finished so that it can be used.
Forging provides a similar jump to a piece that is already roughed out and closer to finished, but the process yields a piece that is structurally stronger.
 

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Both forged and cast can be, and most often are, machined (cnc or otherwise) as part of finishing off the product. Both leave pretty nasty looking surfaces. It is normal to cut at least the mating surfaces back into the better material in the interior, so that these surfaces are smooth, clean, and true.

Cast or forged does not result in a finished part that is ready for assembly.
Most of the benefit of casting is in reducing wasted material and the labor involved in cutting that material away. Casting provides a piece that is much closer to being finished, but it still has to be finished so that it can be used.
Forging provides a similar jump to a piece that is already roughed out and closer to finished, but the process yields a piece that is structurally stronger.
Yes, obviously both are often machined for the reasons you mentioned. Never implied they weren't. An extrusion is similar and can have a better final finish (depending largely on material and the newness of the dies)....but still may need final machining depending on what's being made.
 
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TFBTV did an overview of the Crusader Templar.


Interesting points:

1. upper/lower not compatible with standard AR uppers/lowers.

2. AR triggers and other small parts ARE compatible.

3. mid length gas.

4. 6061 billet aluminum.



Personally, for $1,800, I'd rather save up a little and get a CZ Bren instead. This would be nice as a collectors item though.
 

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TFBTV did an overview of the Crusader Templar.


Interesting points:

1. upper/lower not compatible with standard AR uppers/lowers.

2. AR triggers and other small parts ARE compatible.

3. mid length gas.

4. 6061 billet aluminum.



Personally, for $1,800, I'd rather save up a little and get a CZ Bren instead. This would be nice as a collectors item though.
The "Clever Legal Workaround" mentioned in the video description, explains a lot about their law.

"We moved the front and rear pins about a millimeter and made it non-interchangeable with any AR upper or lower, and that makes it legal."

The XCR is not interchangeable, but existed at the time the law was written, and they named everything that was not AR that existed at the time the law was written.

So, their game is to change the dimensions slightly, then wait for the next round of laws and new names to be added to the list.

The group of new Canadian products looks to be squarely in the middle, between the ARs and the SCAR/ACR/XCR/etc. group. If it weren't for the legality situation, they might not be viable at the price point they are at. I'm not saying they are overpriced. The labor cost may justify every penny. But if those others were available, the "For a couple hundred dollars more, I could get a fill_in_the_blank" argument would really cut the market down.
 

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The "Clever Legal Workaround" mentioned in the video description, explains a lot about their law.

"We moved the front and rear pins about a millimeter and made it non-interchangeable with any AR upper or lower, and that makes it legal."

The XCR is not interchangeable, but existed at the time the law was written, and they named everything that was not AR that existed at the time the law was written.

So, their game is to change the dimensions slightly, then wait for the next round of laws and new names to be added to the list.

The group of new Canadian products looks to be squarely in the middle, between the ARs and the SCAR/ACR/XCR/etc. group. If it weren't for the legality situation, they might not be viable at the price point they are at. I'm not saying they are overpriced. The labor cost may justify every penny. But if those others were available, the "For a couple hundred dollars more, I could get a fill_in_the_blank" argument would really cut the market down.
Thanks for the explanation.....

If that's the case, I really question the intelligence of the legislators of Canada. It'd be far simpler to ban features and semi-autos as categories rather than listing by name.
 
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Thanks for the explanation.....

If that's the case, I really question the intelligence of the legislators of Canada. It'd be far simpler to ban features and semi-autos as categories rather than listing by name.
It sounds like their law has the dimensional drawings for the standard AR-15 upper and lower, banning everything that fits those dimensions, and then the names of everything else.
They talk in the video about it being an evolution of the AR-180, they are not sure if parts are interchangeable, but that the law does not address the AR-180 (at least by dimensions).

This is that thing with people who don't know anything about a subject, writing laws and rules about that subject. They think the rest of the world is going to follow the spirit of their oppression, not look for the freedom in what they omit. And anyone involved in competition that involves equipment or machinery along with a human operator (like auto racing), looks at a rule set differently. It's what the rules say specifically, and anything the rules do not say specifically, is allowed.

Edit/Additional:
Here's a story from 2019 discussing this, so it's been in the works for a while:
 

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It sounds like their law has the dimensional drawings for the standard AR-15 upper and lower, banning everything that fits those dimensions, and then the names of everything else.
They talk in the video about it being an evolution of the AR-180, they are not sure if parts are interchangeable, but that the law does not address the AR-180 (at least by dimensions).

This is that thing with people who don't know anything about a subject, writing laws and rules about that subject. They think the rest of the world is going to follow the spirit of their oppression, not look for the freedom in what they omit. And anyone involved in competition that involves equipment or machinery along with a human operator (like auto racing), looks at a rule set differently. It's what the rules say specifically, and anything the rules do not say specifically, is allowed.

Edit/Additional:
Here's a story from 2019 discussing this, so it's been in the works for a while:
Agreed. "Legal" defiance has always been about exploiting loop holes within existing law.
 
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