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Okay WTF!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/

Powell's reasoning is utter bullshit.

He says he couldn’t support McCain because of Palin isn’t ready...So Obama is ready? That is completely idiotic logic

He doesn’t like McCain bringing up Ayers. Shouldn’t a General sworn to defend this nation from all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC be interested in the Obama's ties to DOMESTIC TERRORISTS.

He doesn’t like Republicans saying Obama is a Muslim. Okay well first, I challenge Powell to name a single elected Republican that has call Obama a Muslim.

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He doesn’t agree with McCain on the war. POWELL HELPED MAKE THE WAR!

I hate to say it, because I always thought Powell was destined to be the first black President, and he surely is qualified to for the role, but he killed his political career today, and this move will be wildly interpreted as him being predictable given the obvious difference between McCain and Obama

Or as Rush Limbaugh said, "Where are the inexperienced, white liberals Powell has endorsed?"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1008/Limbaugh_Where_are_the_inexperienced_white_liberals_Powell_has_endorsed.html?showall

I lost a great deal of respect for Powell today.
 

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I really hate to say this,but it probably has more to do with race than anything else.I don't care what color either candidate is,I would vote for the most qualified,unfortunately ,some people can't make that distinction.I agree VB,Powell lost most of my respect as well,but I had a feeling it was going to happen.



 

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This should be no surprise to anyone. Colin Powell is left leaning.
What bugs me is that it took him this long to make up his mind. Yea right!
He came into this interview using Dem talking points and using Hillary speak (village).
This timing is planned.

He mentioned that Obama is qualified because he has "Style and Substance."
Well I guess in his predjudice mind that style and substance with an Alaskan accent is a disqualification.
 

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I really hate to say this,but it probably has more to do with race than anything else.I don't care what color either candidate is,I would vote for the most qualified,unfortunately ,some people can't make that distinction.I agree VB,Powell lost most of my respect as well,but I had a feeling it was going to happen.
I agree ...this is most likely a brother supporting a brother. Powell has no class. We (America) are in real trouble so brace yourself.
 

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Look. With all due respect, Colin Powell explained his reasoning. You may not agree with his decision, but he certainly made it clear how he made that decision. I fail to see how you can dismiss his reasoning as bullshit.

To dismiss his endorsement as simply "[having] more to do with race than anything else" or "most likely a brother supporting a brother" carries no water whatsoever. Suggesting that a man who has dedicated his life to his country would endorse a presidential candidate because of race is completely unfounded, and downright insulting.

I am not posting this to stir up an argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, I have had (and continue to have) great respect and admiration for Colin Powell. Even when I am not in complete agreement with his actions, I still respect him very much. In fact, that is what respect is all about.

Say you disagree with him all you want. Say you think he is wrong or that he is making a bad decision. There is no reason to insult a man who has proved himself over and over. Frankly, it would be difficult to find someone with more class, experience, dedication, and service as Colin Powell.
 

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Its funny how African-Americans can go 98% for Obama and all is well, where as if it where 98% white folk voting for the white guy then it would be racist.

Not to say I wouldn't do any different. If I was Irish-American and there was an Irish-American in the race, I would probably vote the same way. Lets just get past the spin and call it what it is.
 

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Look. With all due respect, Colin Powell explained his reasoning. You may not agree with his decision, but he certainly made it clear how he made that decision. I fail to see how you can dismiss his reasoning as bullshit.

To dismiss his endorsement as simply "[having] more to do with race than anything else" or "most likely a brother supporting a brother" carries no water whatsoever. Suggesting that a man who has dedicated his life to his country would endorse a presidential candidate because of race is completely unfounded, and downright insulting.

I am not posting this to stir up an argument. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. However, I have had (and continue to have) great respect and admiration for Colin Powell. Even when I am not in complete agreement with his actions, I still respect him very much. In fact, that is what respect is all about.

Say you disagree with him all you want. Say you think he is wrong or that he is making a bad decision. There is no reason to insult a man who has proved himself over and over. Frankly, it would be difficult to find someone with more class, experience, dedication, and service as Colin Powell.

thats because conservatives are just as much racist and idiots as liberals. here is a man who has dedicated himself to the Republican party, if he was going to be a racist he would have done it long ago, not wait till he is 65 and have no political clout whatsoever... this place cracks me up sometimes.
 

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First of all I said probably,which means I don't know for certain,it is however what I feel is still most likely.He is well spoken and some of his talking points are well received and on point.However,some in my opinion were completely off base.For instance,the notion the Republican party has gone to far to the right is Bullshit.The Patriot Act is an example of said bullshit.
I also said I lost most of my respect for him because of what I felt.I respect his dedication and service to his country,that I will always respect.I don't however believe his motivations were pure,and therefore stand by my original theory.I meant no insult to anyone,but if it is true it's wrong wether your white,black or purple.
To deny and suggest that because someone that has served their country with as much dedication as Colin Powell is not capable of racism,is both naive' and unrealistic.This is something unfortunately no person is above.If his motivations are pure,then more power to him.



 

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Colin Powell is a man of integrity and has done much for the Republican party over the years. I think we owe him the repect he deserves. It is no secret that Bush, Chaney and Rumsfeld undercut him several times during his tenure as secretary of state. He has also said that his speech to the UN about Iraq's WMD's (unknowing to him based on slim evidence) was the low point of his career because when no WMD's were found, it made him look like a fool. For all the service this man has provided to our country, surely he is entitled to his opinion. Isn't this what America is all about?
 

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I agree he is entitled to his opinion,and yes that is a part of what makes our country great.If however I thought his "opinion" was based solely on his personal feelings and beliefs,I would never have said anything about it.I don't know the man,and I doubt any of you do either,so I cannot vouch for his integrity.How people carry themselves and act when in the public eye,may not reflect on their personal life or attest to their character.I'm not saying that he does not have integrity,just that appearances can be deceiving,no matter the individual in question.Who am I to judge his motivation? No one,but I'm entitled to my opinion too.



 

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Talk to any of the other retired brass that know him and they will tell you he is total BS.
I have talked to two of them at reserve meetings and the VA ,and one of them is Black.
He never amide a single strategic or theater decision in his life.
Way over rated ,point man for the press so they think it was all of his idea.
As a man or an individual he is OK i guess but he sure inst a General.
Storming Norman has made some little comments of about the same before.
Something like ( we could get this done if he would get the hell out of my way).
 

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It's embarrasing.
 

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I believe Sig4all is an O6. I am sure he gets a lot of good juicy info. Powell does seem to be the front man for the press, but hey aren't they all? The true Generals never become our leaders.
 

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Powell got to the top by learning whose ass to kiss and when to step sideways to avoid the shit. Why does it surprise any of you?
 

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Powell got to the top by learning whose ass to kiss and when to step sideways to avoid the shit. Why does it surprise any of you?
Ding ding ding... just like the rest of them. Like you know Powell and personally dealt with him to personally call him out.
 

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I believe Sig4all is an O6. I am sure he gets a lot of good juicy info. Powell does seem to be the front man for the press, but hey aren't they all? The true Generals never become our leaders.
And thank God for that! I count on our leaders to find any, and every, possible way to avoid war. I count on the generals to kick maximum ass if, and when, that doesn't work out.
 

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sinjin, well said! War is politics by other means. As for Powell, I don't think anyone was surprised with his decision. Whether you believe race is a factor or not, Powell more then likely believes Obama will be the next POTUS and wants to be on the winning side. As for Obama, who at one of the debates with McCain flat out said "you were wrong" about WMD's. Well then, Powell was wrong too. My thoughts on WMD's I'll save for another time. Obama runs on the Bush administrations failures over the last eight years saying "do you want another eight years of that?" Powell was wrong on WMD's and was part of the failed Bush administration. Why then would Obama want him as an advisor?? Race, you decide!

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Maybe he just wants a job on the new administration. ::)



 
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