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I am considering buying a XCR in 5.56 with a light 16" barrel, a M16 three slot muzzle brake, a folding / collapsing M4 stock. I am going to be using the rifle as a home defence weapon, a range weapon, once I buy a caliber conversion kit it might also be used as a hunting rifle, I am planning to possibly use it as a patrol weapon once I become a Law Enforcement Officer. What I am wondering is are there any other factory accessories I should consider with this or in place of what I am planning to buy. In the future I plan to add a vertical foregrip and possibly a light or laser system. Any help would be appreciated. If there is something you recommend please include your review.
 

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You know, I was messin around the other day and realized that having the Ambi selector switch might be nice just so you don't have to rotate your thumb way out of the way to place the rifle on safe from fire.

You could get a spare parts kit but I haven't had a need for one yet.

Ask them to install the set screw for the trigger to improve trigger feel or you can do it yourself, it is easy.

I would get the rifle and shoot it and see how you like it. Have you decided on optics (assuming red dot if for home defense). You may also want a light if for home defense.

Whatever you end up wanting Roy at Aussie Arms can give you the best price and service as long as he can get it.
 

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Personally for home defense, I'd rather use one of my hand guns than the XCR with a 16" barrel, that I'm sure this is because I lack training. For plinking 7.62X39 is cheaper, it also as far as I know is a lot better of a make you dead round... I'd wait and get a 12" 7.62X39 XCR rather then buy 16" .223 XCR.
 

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The nice thing about the 5.56 is compatibility with others in your department that carry an AR. It takes the same magazines, so that's good.

To my knowledge, there are not a whole lot of factory options. Any fore grip will install on the rails.

I don't know how much of the other posts you've read, but there is a new stock in the works that may be worth waiting to see.

That's about all I can tell you.

Welcome to the forum.
 

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I carry the XCR as my patrol rifle and here is my take for you. First, get some training with the gun. This will benefit you more than anything else. Once you've gotten proficient with the gun, then look at making it fit you better. For a patrol rifle, I feel that a sling and light are mandatory.

Past that, VFG's, optics, grips, are just about personal preference. I have all of these, but none would be necessary, as the base XCR is a great gun.

As much as I like optics, get to know irons first as they will always be there for you. I was running my gun for a while without BUIS's and thankfully had the time to switch out a battery on a call when I wanted my rifle. Needless to say, I ordered the front sight the next day.
 

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And when he means training, it should be at least 500 rounds down the tube if you've qualed/carry/use/familiar with a similar carbine (AR) more if not, and at least 1000 rounds if little to no prior experience or formal trianing. 

***Warning-before ya'll write me off as some doomsday nut I'm not.  But I can't just undo years of training and experience for a "casual day" out shooting.  I dress to get dirty and I get dirty but i still have fun.  On that note, for the others who just want to plink, that's what a .22 fills my niche, enjoy your slurpee, shade cover, and do what you enjoy doing.  Disregard the following***

For the rest,

Have at least 6 mags and any set up that is practical for intended purpose.  If you will be starting out in LE, a chest rig/molle won't be practical b/c you will start out on street patrol and won't be wearing stuff like that.  Get a nylon duty type belt, BDU/ACU pants, and something that holds at least 2 30 rd mags.  Get good eyes and ears and BALL CAP, no boonies. You'll see why.  If you've got a pistol put that on too when you shoot a course even if your are not shooting a pistol.  If you can add extra equipment you'd expect to use in the real world (LE/MIL/SHTF-EOTW) to include body armor.  If you don't have all those, get what you can and go from there.

Either take a carbine class preferably one that does some sort of qualification score.  Or team up with a gun nut in the military or leo.  Make sure you are confident they even know what they are doing.  Shoot their qual course to include 2 qualifying scores.  Something else that may also help is do 3 gun matches, any EBR rifle matches, maybe CMP but the xcr won't fly.  See what NRA offers.

This may seem much but I recommend this to ALL.  It's better to over do it in training and get into practicing what you would do in a real fight as in train as you would fight. 

Last word, for god's sake don't shoot your foot off.  Come to think of it, shit can everything Hollywood puts out.  Some stuff was been good but it's advanced like what you saw on Miami Vice, Heat, and that Bruce Wilis oneTears of the Sun or something like that.

If you, or anyone else, are in AZ, pm me.  I'll set you up and at least do the USBP course.  IMO it's the least you should do.  Maybe I can replicate my old Batallion Individual Tactical Course - Live Fire Exercise.  We did did that after Bn twice anual quals and those were considered "too easy" all firing done from a static position.  The ITC-LFE was being considered to replace the then curren Army Marksmanshp Program which I think is still being used. I believe we copied it from the Rangers, so speak up if anyone remembers it. The ITC-LFE is basically a live fire qual course that requires you to shoot at 90 targets as you run through a course with 90 rounds.  And I mean you literally run. It is timed from start to finish having only 12 minutes (i think-could have been 18) to complete the 600 meter course.  If you fail the ITC-LFE, well we'll just say, they usually have enough ammo and time to be sure you have plenty of tries.  If you fail it you won't get booted, but you don't want to fail that one. Or anything come to think of it. The guys running that range were in top running shape running 600 meters with stops about 12 times a day! They didn't care for the ones who didn't qual and have to come back again later.

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The nice thing about the 5.56 is compatibility with others in your department that carry an AR. It takes the same magazines, so that's good.

To my knowledge, there are not a whole lot of factory options. Any fore grip will install on the rails.

I don't know how much of the other posts you've read, but there is a new stock in the works that may be worth waiting to see.

That's about all I can tell you.

Welcome to the forum.
Thing is though he's not Law Enforcement yet, and about the only time compatability would be an issue would be for training or plinking at the range, besides not all deparments allow you to use your own gun, thier almost always issued as far as I know...
 

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I am considering either a Millet DMS - 1 or a Leopold MR/T 1.5 - 5 with a SPR and illuminated reticle as my optics I will eventually by a good set of BUIS. How is the best way to get with Roy at Aussie Arms? One of the conversion kits I am goig to buy is the 7.62 x 39, I can not have a handgun yet as I am not quite 21 which also is the reason I am not yet a LEO, and the reason the shortest barrel I can have is 16". I already have an extra 3-point sling for it. The light is definatly something I will get any recommendations? I plan to attend a tactical rifle seminar this summer, I am already a capable marksman though as I was the Captain of my local markmanship team, but the more traing the better. Thanks everyone for helping out.
 

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Shorter barrels an NFA thing its an extra $200.00, the process is explained every where. Im not saying to get one but my hand guns are in my parents name until I'm 21...
 

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The Millet and Leupold decision is like trying to decide whether to get a BMW or a Hyundai.

I would suggest you get what you can afford and what you will be using the gun for.

My 2 cents.. 50-150 yards Red Dots work great and they are very fast. Eotech and Aimpoints if you can afford them. A Bushnell maybe if you want to save a few bucks.

100-300 yards Magnified Optics. Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20mm MR/T M2 WITH LaRue Tactical SPR QD Mount 56994 LT104-30 is one of the best set ups on the market. If you have the budget to afford it.
The Millet DMS with they same LaRue mount if you want to be frugal....But it's not even close to an apples for apples comparison.

In optics there are only a few true bargains and the Millet is rumored to be one of them. The SWFA Super Sniper Scopes are the other.

Good Luck

I have and Eotech on 1 XCR and Aimpoint ML3 on another XCR . The Leupold above on my AR

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