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Take a look..

I added a Vltor loop End plate and a Sector ASP ( Ambidextrious Single Point) Sling

I like it...for hiking I think I need a two point..

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the only strenght the single point has is in allowing left and right ahnd shooting. other than that I find them almost useless in controlling the flopping and movement of the gun particularly in a transition to pistol. I d rather have NO sling than a 1 point personally. 2 points are king. live it learn it!! :-*
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p.s. three points just get tangled up in your gear and offer no support for a quick wrap like a 2 point will.
 

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Well damn...I guess I pissed my money away

If I have to hold off my neighbors in a gun fight I may be ok :eek:

I guess this wont work ??

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I added the same sling to a rifle of mine for about five minutes. I went with a different mounting point and a different "stub" though:





For me, the advantage of the HK style clip is that you can have the quick detach feature, but when you are not using the sling at all, you can easily remove the entire stub so that it doesn't get in the way.

I shot one match with the setup pictured. My only problem with it is that the MI mount has a piece on the inside that is designed to fit into a gap opening in the endplate that does not exist on my particular endplate, creating a gap. So, I removed it. One day I will get around to ordering an LMT single point mount that will work perfectly with my endplate, and it will be perfect. :)

The single point seems to be good for emergency weapon retention (I would assume) and shooting from either hand around cover, but bad for controlling the weapon while transitioning to a pistol or otherwise using your hands for something else. I don't have a huge amount of experience with it though.
 

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The Complaints that I have heard about the single point sling is that the gun
swings around too much while it's hanging from the sling.

I own two identical to the one pictured and have not enough experience to know any better but for what I do it works ok.I actually have not needed a sling of any kind they are just cool add on's.

I do hear raves about the two point Vickers sling.
 

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For those of you that think you can live with a single point sling you may want to take a look at this
one. It has worked out real well for me.

www.buttonsling.com
 
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they are kinda high speed low drag until it starts knocking you in between your knees as you get off the X and move with your rifle whilst transitioning to the pistol. they can work for some folks who might be of "large" build, but they are to insecure and floppy IMHO. notce in the animation that the guy is not moving at all. in real life they call that a easy target. shoot and move, move and shoot.

suarez's rifle holstering technique is super fast and secure and uses a 2 point. while not slung up with sling dangling, rifle is held with right hand and left hand and head go thru the sling loop and rifle is dropped onto back with muzzle down. you can run and move safely like this.
 

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Has Gabe ever made a short video showing that technique like the one he made showing the use of the bug out bag?


He made one that I've seen but I don't remember where it was. Check out www.warriortalk.com, he may have it posted on there somewhere.
 

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For those of you that think you can live with a single point sling you may want to take a look at this
one. It has worked out real well for me.

www.buttonsling.com
Looks similiar to this one here...

http://northeasttactical.com/OnePt.html#elasticcord

My buddy that does so pretty high speed stuff in the Army had one of these, said lots of guys in his unit use it when wearing body armor and/or CQB/room clearing. He said the bungee is real nice because you can jab the muzzle of the weapon into someone if they get real close to you or you need them alive.

I tried it out but didn't have enough time with it to make a good desicion. Blue Force Gear is about 20 minutes from my house so I need to stop in and ckeck out the Vickers sling they make. I may decide to go with that.
 

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I use my XCR and AR's for both Trooper Class Tactical Matches and Training, and wouldn't use anything "but a single point sling". The single point is the only sling that allows me to quickly drop my rifle and transition to my pistol and not have the rifle in the way of my mags or other gear. My weapon flaping around is not an issue because when I move it is at the "ready" anyway.

MadDog ;)
 
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