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I found this Artical about the XCR....
Check this out...
Neat Artical
http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/robinson.pdf
Check this out...
Neat Artical
http://www.ar15.com/content/swat/robinson.pdf
I found this Artical about the XCR....
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I believe that was the first published article of the XCR in the mags. The next one was in Guns and weapons for law enforcement. I missed the 3rd but got the one in Shotgun news. All the articles had nothing but good things to day about it. They also sounded pretty fair and unbalanced, not like some where you can tell the author is on the payroll of the company that is producing the weapon.
I believe that was the first published article of the XCR in the mags. The next one was in Guns and weapons for law enforcement. I missed the 3rd but got the one in Shotgun news. All the articles had nothing but good things to day about it. They also sounded pretty fair and unbalanced, not like some where you can tell the author is on the payroll of the company that is producing the weapon.
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The only bit I found odd was the comment that the stock is out of plane with the sights. Didn't make sense to me as the stock is in line with the barrel which fights reciol and the sights plane is similar to the AR other than the fact that it's easier to get as cheekweld on the XCR.
The only bit I found odd was the comment that the stock is out of plane with the sights. Didn't make sense to me as the stock is in line with the barrel which fights reciol and the sights plane is similar to the AR other than the fact that it's easier to get as cheekweld on the XCR.
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LARRY CORREIA sucks. He's a jerk who publicly trashes Alex and Robarms every chances he gets.
I dont know all the details but Larry owns FBMG and used to sell Veprs for Robarms. Who knows what happened but apparently the two had a falling out. Rumor has it that he was gouging VEPR's and everyone knows stuff like that drives Alex up the wall. So Alex stopped selling him VEPR. Who knows if it is true, but you dont see FBMG listed as a Utah dealer anywhere on the Robarm's site. This is all conjecture but clearly something happened.
Now Larry Correia goes out of his way to say negative things about Alex and the XCR anywhere and everywhere he gets the chance. For example, last time I saw him at Crossroads gunshow he kept saying Robarms was going under because they didnt get the SCAR contract; this was over a year ago. His comments on numerous forums is almost always negative. When he was selling Robarms products he was filled with nothing but praise so without question it is personal.
George Hill, AKA Mad Ogre, is another Utah local moron who has a hard-on for Alex. So much so he was willing to say Robarms was going under...mind you this was way back in 2002 and Alex is still selling XCR's so who was right and who was wrong.
LARRY CORREIA sucks. He's a jerk who publicly trashes Alex and Robarms every chances he gets.
I dont know all the details but Larry owns FBMG and used to sell Veprs for Robarms. Who knows what happened but apparently the two had a falling out. Rumor has it that he was gouging VEPR's and everyone knows stuff like that drives Alex up the wall. So Alex stopped selling him VEPR. Who knows if it is true, but you dont see FBMG listed as a Utah dealer anywhere on the Robarm's site. This is all conjecture but clearly something happened.
Now Larry Correia goes out of his way to say negative things about Alex and the XCR anywhere and everywhere he gets the chance. For example, last time I saw him at Crossroads gunshow he kept saying Robarms was going under because they didnt get the SCAR contract; this was over a year ago. His comments on numerous forums is almost always negative. When he was selling Robarms products he was filled with nothing but praise so without question it is personal.
George Hill, AKA Mad Ogre, is another Utah local moron who has a hard-on for Alex. So much so he was willing to say Robarms was going under...mind you this was way back in 2002 and Alex is still selling XCR's so who was right and who was wrong.
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haven't had any interaction with correia because I'm on thr very seldomly, but if anyone has any interest in the swat magazine pdf with his review of the xcr I'd be happy to send it to you...
haven't had any interaction with correia because I'm on thr very seldomly, but if anyone has any interest in the swat magazine pdf with his review of the xcr I'd be happy to send it to you...
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That surprises me you'd say that about George. He's always seemed to be a pretty decent guy to me.
On Larry, I didn't put two and two together. I've done business with FBMG before......
If you want a real laugh, ask him about the time his partner at Gunsite got his carbine slapped from his hands and admonished for 'sweeping' people once too many times (in my mind, once is too many times). I thought the nice lady that did so was in the right, no question - they were almost out of a place to stay ;D
These ain't the old The Jefe days, when someone admonished would be looking down the barrel of The Jefe's 1911, and told they were persona nongrata.
That surprises me you'd say that about George. He's always seemed to be a pretty decent guy to me.
On Larry, I didn't put two and two together. I've done business with FBMG before......
If you want a real laugh, ask him about the time his partner at Gunsite got his carbine slapped from his hands and admonished for 'sweeping' people once too many times (in my mind, once is too many times). I thought the nice lady that did so was in the right, no question - they were almost out of a place to stay ;D
These ain't the old The Jefe days, when someone admonished would be looking down the barrel of The Jefe's 1911, and told they were persona nongrata.
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At the end of the article, the author sums up 2 area's he would like to see improvements: Better trigger and improved stock. The trigger on my XCR is actually decent for what it is, but there has been a lot of discussion around this topic right here. As for the stock, I agree. I'm looking forward to what Alex comes up with... hoping for something along the lines of the FN SCAR stock.
At the end of the article, the author sums up 2 area's he would like to see improvements: Better trigger and improved stock. The trigger on my XCR is actually decent for what it is, but there has been a lot of discussion around this topic right here. As for the stock, I agree. I'm looking forward to what Alex comes up with... hoping for something along the lines of the FN SCAR stock.
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I guess you must be relating personal experience here because the article I just read noted above seemed pretty much right on and not negative IMO.
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I dont even know what he would write now given whatever situation is going on with Larry/FBMG and Alex/Robarms
The article is okay, my personal experiance is Larry hates Alex and the XCR and if you see him in person at the crossroads gunshow in SLC, UT at the FBMG table expect to get an earful. Mind you that article was written when FBMG still had XCR's at their booth. In fact the first time I saw an XCR ever was at the FBMG booth
I dont even know what he would write now given whatever situation is going on with Larry/FBMG and Alex/Robarms
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I have started to reply to this thread like 3 times, but didn't want to stir the pot too much. I spoke to Alex last fall before that article was published about all the hating my a few guys on ARF.com and he enlightened me a little. Turns out it was all by the guys at FBMG. He had some dealings with them in the past and apperently they took advantage of his friendship and trust. They started hating on him but one of the guys convinced him that FBMG needed 2 XCRs for a magazine review and to show customers. I heard that Alex only sent 1 and told them that he promised the first XCR review to another author (more experienced than FBMG who were writing their first article, though Larry took credit). They again went against his wishes and I think that Alex cut them off as a dealer. The rest is history. Bottom line, they abused Alex and his generosity and he decided to stop buisness with them.
Again, some of this is from Alex and other is from what I have heard. They screwed Alex over more than once and talked just a little too much trash.
I have started to reply to this thread like 3 times, but didn't want to stir the pot too much. I spoke to Alex last fall before that article was published about all the hating my a few guys on ARF.com and he enlightened me a little. Turns out it was all by the guys at FBMG. He had some dealings with them in the past and apperently they took advantage of his friendship and trust. They started hating on him but one of the guys convinced him that FBMG needed 2 XCRs for a magazine review and to show customers. I heard that Alex only sent 1 and told them that he promised the first XCR review to another author (more experienced than FBMG who were writing their first article, though Larry took credit). They again went against his wishes and I think that Alex cut them off as a dealer. The rest is history. Bottom line, they abused Alex and his generosity and he decided to stop buisness with them.
Again, some of this is from Alex and other is from what I have heard. They screwed Alex over more than once and talked just a little too much trash.
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The only thing l read in the article that did not make since was he said that it took a punch to seperate the lower and upper recieve I have never had that much trouble mine has been tight before but I can usuallly get it out with my bare hands.
The only thing l read in the article that did not make since was he said that it took a punch to seperate the lower and upper recieve I have never had that much trouble mine has been tight before but I can usuallly get it out with my bare hands.
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