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I encourage you to watch the video in it's entirety, then please post a response.

 

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I have railed about this for years. Plans for martial law go back at least until the days of Nixon.

And nothing in the Constitution allows it. The closest you get is this:

"The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it."

There have been huge detention centers built around the country, like this one:


It appears that most of our congress is in the dark about it.

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Source of this is The Corbett Report.

http://www.corbettreport.com/

Includes such gems as

Episode #074 - The inbred elite's million year plan
Date/Duration: 2009/02/15 / 54:27
Description: As we celebrate Charles Darwin's 200th birthday, perhaps it's time to familiarize ourselves with what he actually wrote. From proto-eugenics through inbred family trees to the engineering of humanity, it's time to face the million year plan of the technocrats on this week's edition of The Corbett Report.

Episode #066 - Vaccines as silent weapons
Date/Duration: 2008/11/30 / 1:06:35
Description: SV40 and cancer viruses in the vaccines? Rockefeller and Gates working on experimental vaccines? Gardasil may actually cause cancer? Mandatory flu shots? Welcome to the world of soft kill eugenics. Vaccines are silent weapons in the quiet war.

Episode #059 - Codex Alimentarius
Date/Duration: 2008/10/12 / 53:34
Description: This week we explore the plan to criminalize vitamins and minerals, mandate the irradiation of all food, inject every cow with Monsanto growth hormones and promote the consumption of GMO food. Implementation date: Dec. 31, 2009. Location: All WTO member states. Meet codex alimentarius.

Episode #041 - Food is a weapon
Date/Duration: 2008/05/11 / 1:04:53
Description: What do the Rockefellers, the Gates, Monsanto, the Norwegian government and other nefarious entities have to do with the doomsday seed vault? And what is their endgame. Let's connect the dots and find out who the enemy really is.

And probably my particular favorite.......

Episode #016 - The Bushes are Nazis
Date/Duration: 2007/09/14 / 32:18
Description: Did you know President Bush's grandfather was involved in a fascist coup to overthrow the American government? Or that he helped fund Hitler through the Union Banking Corp.? Does the skull and bones apple fall far from the tree?
 

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they could try it, but there simply isnt the troop strengh to keep more that a few large cities in check, i dont dought they might try it as the economy is on a fast rope to hell and they dont have a clue how to stop it, or at least thats what it aprears . XCR fan, i like your threads, i hope you get your magpull gear.lol
 

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Right. I understand the tinfoil hat movement. The problem is that all of the clips they used in their little video are legit. As is the clip of the renovated camp I posted -- which has been covered by a wide variety of media sources. The government built a whole series of these camps around the country, and other overseas, beyond the reach of US law. The purpose, they told us, was to detain terrorists.

Clearly, they're expecting a lot of them.

I genuinely don't know what to make of this stuff. But I see the potential, at least, for a profound shift in our way of life. It didn't start with Bush, but he accelerated it to a whole new level. Bush thought the president should be king. He set in place a wide variety of extra-constitutional programs that Obama has now inherited. And for the most part, Obama has not disavowed them.

I'm NOT an alarmist, but I see a storm coming.

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What do you think this is about?
What will be the role of this "civialian" army?
Will they be another arm of the police?
What laws will they enforce?
Who will they answer too?


Why not just hire more police? Wouldn't that make sense? This is just another reason why BHO scares me.
 

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This all reminds me of something. I am not sure what , it seems so early reminiscent. Oh yeah now i remember the conception of America when WE THE PEOPLE rejected British tyranny. Read Carefully This is your heritage and yet another one will be violated shortly.

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. —Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain [George III] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the consent of our legislatures.


He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:


For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:


For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us, in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.


He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

John Hancock


New Hampshire:
Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton

Massachusetts:
John Hancock, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery

Connecticut:
Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott

New York:
William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris

New Jersey:
Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark

Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross

Delaware:
Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean

Maryland:
Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia:
George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton

North Carolina:
William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn

South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton

Georgia:
Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton

watch this video.
 

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The video consists of carefully selected clips, some over 8 years old from a wide variety of sources, solely to support a predefined viewpoint.

It's called propaganda.

Anyone here could pick a selection of clips, bolt them together and demonstrate Ted Kennedy is a good driver, Carolyn McCarthy is a reasonable person or the AR is better than the XCR. Don't make any of it true...... ;D
 

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The video consists of carefully selected clips, some over 8 years old from a wide variety of sources, solely to support a predefined viewpoint.

It's called propaganda.

Anyone here could pick a selection of clips, bolt them together and demonstrate Ted Kennedy is a good driver, Carolyn  McCarthy is a reasonable person or the AR is better than the XCR. Don't make any of it true...... ;D
You have not proven it to be untrue , you have only entertained the possibility of such.
1.) Clergy response teams are real its documented on the public record.
2.) North-Com Does have control over active duty military brigades in America in order to quell civil unrest , in violation of posse comitatus.
3.) Gun Confiscation of law abiding citizens did take place in the aftermath of hurricane katrina.
4.) I could go on , but if you would dispute video testimony of people that are directly involved in such said activities. There is no point in trying to reason with someone who clearly does not want to know or accept the truth. furthermore; I would direct the kind gentlemen to the http://theobamaforum.com/ .
 

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Here's a definition of propaganda

A one-sided, biased presentation of an issue, trading on emotional appeals and a wide range of rhetorical devices in order to override critical assessment and secure conviction. The propagandist has found the truth and has no interest in encouraging others to engage in genuine inquiry. Note that while propaganda is definitionally misleading it is not at all necessarily factually false by nature--it is one-sided argument intended to persuade.

Have a look at the facts first, their provenance and aim.

As for your "Facts" there ar 3 points which in actuality have no issue at all

In case of disaster, people want spiritual support...I know some clergy might be a good idea. In a disaster they will need to be imtegrated with the rest of the support infrastructure like the Rde Cross.

Fact, nothing scary, unless you want to then add non exitent BS on top

Ditto the whole crap about how Posse Com has been repealed. utter bollocks but IT COULD so it must have so it;s a plot.

Some firearms confiscations occurred post Katrina which were, post event shown to be illegal, and led to most states passing explicit laws against it....

Etc etc

Plain and simple prop-agit piece
 

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Here's a definition of propaganda

A one-sided, biased presentation of an issue, trading on emotional appeals and a wide range of rhetorical devices in order to override critical assessment and secure conviction. The propagandist has found the truth and has no interest in encouraging others to engage in genuine inquiry. Note that while propaganda is definitionally misleading it is not at all necessarily factually false by nature--it is one-sided argument intended to persuade.

Have a look at the facts first, their provenance and aim.
I have A better one for you. Here's A definition of denial.

Law. refusal to acknowledge the validity of a claim, suit, or the like; a plea that denies allegations of fact in an adversary's plea: Although she sued for libel, he entered a general denial.

sacrifice of one's own wants or needs; self-denial.

Psychology. an unconscious defense mechanism used to reduce anxiety by denying thoughts, feelings, or facts that are consciously intolerable.

Evaluate the facts of a statement or presentation in order to verify the validity of such statement or presentation.
 

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The video consists of carefully selected clips, some over 8 years old from a wide variety of sources, solely to support a predefined viewpoint.

It's called propaganda.

Anyone here could pick a selection of clips, bolt them together and demonstrate Ted Kennedy is a good driver, Carolyn McCarthy is a reasonable person or the AR is better than the XCR. Don't make any of it true...... ;D
The XCR is better than the AR. If you can't see actual facts then you arent capable of making sound decisions.
 

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Jawara, you can read a full sentence I assume?

or the AR is better than the XCR. Don't make any of it true...... Grin
 

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Jawara, you can read a full sentence I assume?

or the AR is better than the XCR. Don't make any of it true...... Grin


Damn, i gotta swallow that one. Totally mistook what you wrote. I do do think that the premise of the video is true.
 

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Talking about your own personal beliefs I assume as you appear to be unable to apply critical analysis to anything in contradiction.

The video is a piece to support a predetermined conclusion, not facts, belief without actual support.
 

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Talking about your own personal beliefs I assume as you appear to be unable to apply critical analysis to anything in contradiction.

The video is a piece to support a predetermined conclusion, not facts, belief without actual support.
I would respectfully remind the kind gentleman , his inability to comment on my responses only to change the subject consistently is not A "critical analysis to anything in contradiction." in your own words , but rather A capitulation and retreat from the topic at hand. Suitable only for politicians avoiding issues that are beyond debate and undeniable. I.E. my reply #8 and #10 after reading this post I see that you edited your reply #9. Which should hold no merit only to cover your tracks.
 

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After watching first video posted again (the one XCRFAN posted) I think I figured somthing out. The president isnt allowed use the US military to do police work on American soil, right? Well it would make perfect sense for Obama to use his own private military, right? So do you think that he could be dropping a hint here :
 

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Here's a definition of propaganda

A one-sided, biased presentation of an issue, trading on emotional appeals and a wide range of rhetorical devices in order to override critical assessment and secure conviction. The propagandist has found the truth and has no interest in encouraging others to engage in genuine inquiry. Note that while propaganda is definitionally misleading it is not at all necessarily factually false by nature--it is one-sided argument intended to persuade.

Have a look at the facts first, their provenance and aim.

As for your "Facts" there ar 3 points which in actuality have no issue at all

In case of disaster, people want spiritual support...I know some clergy might be a good idea. In a disaster they will need to be imtegrated with the rest of the support infrastructure like the Rde Cross.

Fact, nothing scary, unless you want to then add non exitent BS on top

Ditto the whole crap about how Posse Com has been repealed. utter bollocks but IT COULD so it must have so it;s a plot.

Some firearms confiscations occurred post Katrina which were, post event shown to be illegal, and led to most states passing explicit laws against it....

Etc etc

Plain and simple prop-agit piece
After evaluating your Reply #9 edit i find it to be a sesspool of self contradiction i submit your own words

"Jonwon Talking about your own personal beliefs I assume as you appear to be unable to apply critical analysis to anything in contradiction." My own personal beliefs ?
Contradiction #1 , "In case of disaster, people want spiritual support...I know some clergy might be a good idea"
Contradiction #2 "Fact, nothing scary, unless you want to then add non exitent BS on top"
Contradiction #3 "Ditto the whole crap about how Posse Com has been repealed. utter bollocks but IT COULD so it must have so it;s a plot."

These are your words , you have the temerity to blast me for allegedly talking about my own personal beliefs instead of applying critical analysis, which i did not for the record a complete fabrication on your part , but then in the next breathe you do exactly what you speak out against in a re-edit.
 

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I know that one of those Combat Brigades is where I am stationed. Their main training revolves around assisting in the event of a terrorist attack, natural disaster or any other large scale disasters. Though I don't know if we are heading for Martial Law, remember one thing, It will get way WORSE before it gets better.
 
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