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I feel so stupid... :duh:

I did not know this had passed... and is now in the National Register:

DEPARTMENT OF THE INTERIOR
National Park Service
36 CFR Part 2
Fish and Wildlife Service
50 CFR Part 27
RIN 1024–AD70
General Regulations for Areas Administered by the National Park Service and the Fish and Wildlife Service
AGENCIES: Fish and Wildlife Service and National Park Service, Interior
ACTION: Final rule

SUMMARY: This final rulemaking amends regulations codified in 36 CFR part 2 and 50 CFR part 27, which pertain to the possession and transportation of firearms in national park areas and national wildlife refuges. The final rule updates these regulations to reflect state
laws authorizing the possession of concealed firearms, while leaving unchanged the existing regulatory provisions that ensure visitor safety and resource protection such as the prohibitions on poaching and limitations on hunting and target practice.

DATES: [glow=red,2,300]This rule becomes effective on January 9, 2009[/glow]

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Lyle Laverty, 202–208–4416
 

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This is concealed carry for those already licensed to do so in the state where the National Park is located right?
That's how I read it.

This is new to me and great news as I hike the George Washington National Forest in Virginia. It always bugged me to see the sign at the trailheads telling me I can't carry in my home state where I have been granted a CCW permit.
 

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I was a NPS volunteer for a spell - doing bicycle patrol of the C&O Canal. At that time, the general attitude of the firearm carrying NPS Rangers (Protection Branch) as stated to me one time was... "I'm not concerned with what I don't see - it's what I DO SEE that creates a problem between us."

There are some scary people that roam the National Parks - and this now gives us legal rights to carry, provided that the State either issues or honors our permit(s).

Search this National Register entry for the detailed submission:

Federal Register / Vol. 73, No. 238 / Wednesday, December 10, 2008 / Rules and Regulations
 

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Yeah, this had been brewing for a while. I want to say that it was finally approved back in Nov. I wrote an email to them when they were dragging their feet on the ruling. georgiacarry.org keeps me pretty up to date on the political front, usually quicker than the NRA does.
 

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This is new to me and great news as I hike the George Washington National Forest in Virginia. It always bugged me to see the sign at the trailheads telling me I can't carry in my home state where I have been granted a CCW permit.
I live in Virginia too,and I didn't think that applied to the National Forests just National Parks.I could be wrong but if I am I've been breaking that one for some time. :duh: You can hunt in the National Forest,but not National Parks,at least not in Virginia.It's been my understanding if you have a ccw,you could carry in the N.Forest
 

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Ah, the narrow-minded simpletons seem to thrive in National Parks...

Posted by Coach on January 3, 2009 at 7:33 a.m.

"Concealed weapons in parks will not increase crime, nor will it lower it."

[glow=red,2,300]Uh, yeah - Coach, you are an IDIOT.[/glow]

"Just one more thing to fear in our national parks...I rank gun toting Rambo's up there with bears on the danger list."

[glow=red,2,300]Gun toting Rambo's? How about the single mom, camping with her kids, who desires something a little more effective for personal defense than pepper spray?[/glow]

"Now, when I admonish park visitors for littering (or other infractions), I will have to be concerned about what that person might be packing."

[glow=red,2,300]I'm beginning to develop a mental picture of you Coach... and it ain't flattering... [/glow] ;)

"In all my years of hiking and camping, throughout the Sierra Nevadas, I've only ran into problems with humans once. And they where hunters aiming at my dog and I coming out of a thicket. I had some words with those idiots, and, yes, it was quite uncomfortable considering all 3 argued with me while holding their rifles."

[glow=red,2,300]I'd like to hear the other side of that story, please... and what exactly were you doing in the thicket?[/glow]

"Oh well. Usually the people who carry concealed weapons are too afraid to go enjoy nature...unless they are hunting."

[glow=red,2,300]And this statement is based on what? Let's see a show of hands of people who hunt with a concealed weapon![/glow]

< MENTAL NOTE TO SELF - ASK BIG BUCK TO STAND STILL WHILST I DRAW MY CCW >

Posted by Coach on January 3, 2009 at 7:54 a.m.

"If I get into an altercation with a concealed weapon holder, my chances of getting shot skyrocket! I've had many confrontations in my life, but the only time I worried about getting shot was with those hunters out in nowhere."

[glow=red,2,300]So you've had MANY CONFRONTATIONS in your life? That sure tells us a LOT about you![/glow]

[glow=red,2,300]Gee Coach (or shall we call you COOCH?), had you ever thought to check to see what LEGAL hunting season it might be, and AVOID walking around in the woods with your dog during those times? [/glow]

"Macho fantasies of defending yourself against Mexican Nationals is no reason to lax gun laws in our parks system."

[glow=red,2,300]WTF does that mean exactly?[/glow]
 
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