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I think I almost wet my pants upon seeing the new AR180 upper from Brownells. It fits on any AR lower. Watch the video and see for yourself. I'm a huge AR180 fan, I didn't see this one coming. I think they did a great job. The only downside is the $799MSRP for the upper. But that's the way it goes.

 

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This looks AWESOME. I'd want a different charging handle set up but overall....this is a great replacement for the piston fad in ARs. I am curious as to the weight though and wonder if "pistol" length bbls will be available.

I've got a few SBR registered lowers...but I don't want to convert to a folder set up on those since they are currently dedicated to AR SBR uppers. But, a new "pistol" build with a folder would be tits.
 
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This is the coolest thing I've seen since the XCR. I even don't hate the retro, reciprocating charging handle.


Would look great in Tiger Stripe......
 
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Everything looks better in tiger stripes!
 
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Hmmm....guaranteed FOREVER too. I'm interested. Not ready to buy but definitely interested.
 

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Charging handle definitely needs to be changed.

Other than that it’s a cool design.


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Rail and BCG reminds me of the PS90. Interested for sure.
 

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I know they probably didn't want to change the Stoner design too much...but in this day and age I don't understand why they wouldn't have swapped to a left side charging handle.
 
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I know they probably didn't want to change the Stoner design too much...but in this day and age I don't understand why they wouldn't have swapped to a left side charging handle.
I eventually had a similar thought, why not ambi? It doesn't appear (to me, a layman) that an ambi charging handle is too much additional consideration in the design stage.

Making ejection swappable too, that I could understand as a tall order. A lot of voodoo happening there.



We should be at the point where everything has L/R charging.
 
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I agree, thought the same thing with the charging handle. That's why it has the crank so you can reach over. I think they were worried it wouldn't look enough like an AR180.
 
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That crank looks horrible. Seems to me a regular AKesque charging handle would be easier to work especially if one's familiar with the AK manual of arms on charging it under the rifle.
 

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Well they said PWS helped design it, so let’s hope that PWS play around with the design and develops a similar upper with a left side charging handle and a folding stock.

I can tell you it would probably be WAY light if PWS built it.


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Well they said PWS helped design it, so let’s hope that PWS play around with the design and develops a similar upper with a left side charging handle and a folding stock.

I can tell you it would probably be WAY light if PWS built it.


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Very curious to see the final weight ends up being for a 16" and a 10.5"ish size on a regular AR lower.

To me, this makes a LOT more sense than a piston AR.
 

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It's only in .223 Wylde currently?
 

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It's only in .223 Wylde currently?
Most everything .223 is coming in as Wylde it seems....apparently, it's accurate and handles a wide variety of ammo.

AFAIK it's only .223 and 16" bbl length.
 

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That would be the only downside for me currently, the only other caliber I am looking at adding is 6.5 Creedmor in a rifle I could never shoot to it's potential. But enjoy trying.
 

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That would be the only downside for me currently, the only other caliber I am looking at adding is 6.5 Creedmor in a rifle I could never shoot to it's potential. But enjoy trying.
You don't own a 5.56? What are your XCRs chambered in, 7.62x39?
 

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You don't own a 5.56? What are your XCRs chambered in, 7.62x39?
I have not been keeping up on these new calibers, so I assumed because it said .223 Wylde that I could not shoot .556 through it.
Still haven't looked it up but this is a more powerful round like when they went from .223 Rem to .556?
Magazines and bolts are backwards compatible as well to .556?
I have both .556 and 7.62 now for the XCR.
 

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You don't own a 5.56? What are your XCRs chambered in, 7.62x39?
I have not been keeping up on these new calibers, so I assumed because it said .223 Wylde that I could not shoot .556 through it.
Still haven't looked it up but this is a more powerful round like when they went from .223 Rem to .556?
Magazines and bolts are backwards compatible as well to .556?
I have both .556 and 7.62 now for the XCR.
.223 Wylde allows sitting both .223 and 5.56. Unlike a .223 barrel.
 
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