Well that makes me feel even better! LOL
@Chowwow. I’m not sure why you think the polymer body contributed to the OOB explosion occurring in the Scorpion in your post. We don’t actually know what caused that explosion or the other similar cases. There are multiple theories, one of which relates to a potential design flaw in the semi-auto bolt.Like everyone else just said, these are just parts not firearms. See if Robinson arms can send you parts your way and listen to what they have to say.
Do not take anything I say the wrong way or as any indication of arrogance, I only offer this as perspective. Considering that the receivers were intact, no explosion or shrapnel was launched your way, that the rifle was still working with the broken oprod and likely broke before you noticed anything, and said broken parts remained inside of the gun, indicates to me that the gun is "fail-safe" and not "catastrophically failed". With these kinds of things, you have to consider the design and circumstances of the firearm. The fact is that the XCR upper is made of 7075 aluminum alloy in a more compact space at a thickness at least twice that of the Colt AR that Sheff pictured that appears to have suffered an out of battery detonation; very few rifles can make the same claim.
Not to be pedantic, but here is what a lot of CZ scorpion Evo users are waking up to:
I don't have any numbers but there are growing complaints that the Scorpion is susceptible to OOB detonations around reddit and Youtube. The most compelling theory is that the disconnector is off-timed and that it's letting people pull the trigger before the case is in battery. Personally, I also see the fact that the receiver is polymer and that the bolt rides on a spring-loaded guide rod as contributing factors to OOB.
This also reminds me of the ongoing case where a former sheriff got a DP-12 and is now suing everyone involved with the sale and operation of the gun after it seemed to explode on him. He got shrap directed at his body when he was test firing it, and while I do agree scrap would hit him that way, I don't understand how there would be an OOB based on what I know about the DP-12's design. There is a lot of steel in the bolt to close off the chamber and the slide closes tightly. It seems the Plaintiff doesn't really know either, as he sued not only the DP-12's manufacturer but Federal ammunition and the guns store he got the gun from, and has made demands for the companies to reveal trade secrets and design details to determine how any of them could fail. Considering that no independent examination of the offending shotgun has been made yet, no one can be really sure, but I somehow doubt Federal ammo or the gun maker had anything to do with it.
Here's a video on Forgotten Weapons to give you a primer on how dangerous guns can be to the user and what designs are made to make them safer:
To be frank, all guns can be dangerous and we are taking our lives into our own hands when we use them. With guns we are using controlled explosions to direct small metal objects at targets at high speeds. We take them for granted when they work for hundreds or thousands of rounds with no incident. If you are really spooked by the fact that firearm parts can break down during operation, it might be time to find another hobby or tool that doesn't rely on controlled explosions.
My friends have survived a ton of them with mine (they shoot it way more than I do). And mine's got a VERY short trigger and reset.....ala Miller. I'd expect if it's an issue with the chamber not fully closing before a detonation, a short trigger might exacerbate the problem.Just wanted to add that I survived my Scorpion shooting sesh today! Yay!
No, I figured you were joking....@Sean K. yeah I was just kidding, I shoot mine weekly and it has maybe 5000 rounds through it, total. My recent discovery is that the rate failures to feed seem to be caused by some bad Czech mags, which I have to change to have US made followers and bases anyhow. Very fun gun, and every friend who shoots it, and my son, feels like a pro shot after a session, it’s just so damn fun and easy. Especially suppressed!
May you treat every day from now on as a gift!Just wanted to add that I survived my Scorpion shooting sesh today! Yay!
I stand corrected.Arfcom is full of fanboys.
I don't think you understand what the ban means in Canada. For your edification: The Terrible Trouble With Trudeau's Canadian Gun Ban and that was prior to Trudeau's latest election victory.
Trust me, we know.Thanks for the replies and suggestions but again - getting replacement parts in Canada is all but impossible (legally) and the consequences for attempting to circumvent that are absolutely astronomical and will only get worse.
Canada is a lost country doomed to authoritarian socialist rule. Those of you in the US should be paying close attention - you're next.
I don’t know why people give Anarchy a bad rap. It’s literally the natural state of everything. Government is the problem.The estimate is that only 3% of the population actively fought and took to arms on the side of the colonists during the Revolutionary War. I think that's probably a good number to go with today....and amounts to roughly 9M people. The bigger problem is that without a moral compass and without an understanding of founding principles (which those on the right and left completely lack) you will wind up with anarchy followed quickly by an even more tyrannical regime that will promise order. In short, we are not prepared in the slightest to restore the Constitution to its proper place, whittle down law to only those that actually violate another's natural, negative rights (most people don't even know the difference between a positive or negative right anyway), and institute rule of law applicable to all, equally. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
The mental/spiritual preparation for the Revolution literally took decades....starting in the 1760s or earlier and much of it was preached from the pulpit. The physical part was easily 5 years when one looks at the instigation particularly in Boston via Sam Adams and the Sons of Liberty.
I fear we are behind the curve in both aspects and may not be able to make up the time/distance lost as things have so greatly accelerated globally in the last 1.5 years.