I ordered on Nov. 12. Got a call from Allison a couple days ago offering to ship the 7.62 kit now, but the 5.56 rifle won't be ready until Feb. and possibly March. If it goes to March 12 that will be 4 months. Thats 4 times longer than I was told on day one. I guess the bottom line is that I don't know when I'm going to get my rifle and I'm pretty sure nobody else does either. That being said, I've learned to be patient mainly because I have no choice. I've kept busy buying other guns: 4 Saiga shotguns (Tromix, Krebs, & Cadiz conversions and one stock import that I'm going to convert myself) A 7.62 AK variant, A Sig 556 Pistol, A .50 cal. Beowwulf upper and AR lower. A multitude of mags and drums for all of the above, an Eotech 512, 3 green laser sights, Rifle bags. Lots of ammo for all the above. For me this was a "live and learn" experience. I won't be buying any more guns directly from a manufacturer with a long waiting list because there are too many variables that they have no control over. If my rifle arrives eventually and it is everything I expect that it will be then I will consider the wait worth it, if its not......well lets just not go there.