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funny to see people chime in on that thread that couldn't possibly have 416 experience since it's not available here..
Yet several people here in the US got HK 416 uppers several years ago when some "accidentally" got released to the public. So, it is possible that some folks not only have experience, but actually own one.

IIRC, they were selling for some un-godly amount....like $5K.

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