Poll for the next XCR Lower project!

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Chowwow

New year, new start on a fresh, challenging projects!

Work on the AR-XCR lower is drawing down in terms of CAD work, though the transition to CNC machining will require it's own steps. In the mean time, I believe it is time to move forward with the lessons and tools we've gained over the last year of work and produce a new lower for the XCR family. After some thinking, I've compiled a list of possible projects that I can move forward with, and I would like to know which of these ideas have popular support so that I may focus my efforts on a specific project. Here are detailed descriptions of the projects with pros and cons to each one:

AK-XCR with XCR Trigger	An offshoot of last year's Picatinny-XCR lower using factory-standard AK magazines. This will be a CNC machined lower featuring a rear 1913 rail for stocks, the original XCR trigger group, and a low profile magwell and mag latch for the AK magazine. + Low profile and light design + AK magwell specifications are publicly known - Requires designing proprietary mag latch; one that is longer and in a different position than the standard mag latch used in the AK. Will require trial and error. - No BHO unless Yugo mags somehow work. - Must purchase standard AK mag to ensure compatibility. - I do not personally own 7.62x39 barrel conversion. However, I do own a 6.5 Grendel barrel conversion, which uses the same bolt and enough 6.5 Grendel rounds can be loaded into an AK mag ensure function.
AK-XCR with AR-15 Trigger	A variant of the AR-XCR lower that uses AK mags. This will be a CNC machined lower featuring a rear 1913 rail for stocks, the expanded body for an AR-15 trigger group, and the AK magwell and mag latch. + Uses AR-15 triggers! No longer dependent on RA for triggers - No BHO - Requires designing a unique mag latch that is different from the one used in the previous proposed design. It must be longer to accommodate the extra height imposed by the AR trigger group. Position of pivot pin will be different too.
Swappable Magwell XCR lower with AR-15 Trigger	A variant of the AR-XCR lower that has all of its features as well as being able to swap out the magwell of the lower from a module that accepts AR mags and contains the BHO, to one that accepts AK mags and contains the mag latch. + Feature rich, one and done solution - Complex, and requires careful machining - Development of this system basically involves developing an AK-XCR w/ AR FCG anyway, with further development on the magwell swap feature added at the end. Might be worth holding back development until other designs are proven.
AR-XCR-M	Everything that I've done for the XCR-L, but with the lower for the -M. It will be a CNC machined aluminum lower fitted for the XCR-M that accepts LR-308/SR-25 magazines, a rear 1913 rail and an expanded body for the AR-10/AR-15 trigger group. + Added features for the -M, mainly the option to use your own dang trigger for your -M + Expected design will be similar to the AR-XCR(-L), just with the expanded magwell - Not sure if expanded trigger options are necessary for the -M - Might need to design a new BHO - I do not own an XCR-M (yet), and I need to acquire one and go through the same process as I did on the AR-XCR to ensure the function of the design
Bren-XCR with AR-15 Trigger	A variant of the AR-XCR lower that uses 7.62x39 CZ Bren 2 mags. This will be a CNC machined lower featuring a rear 1913 rail for stocks, the expanded body for an AR-15 trigger group, and a magwell accepting the Bren 2 mags. + Design (potentially) will be very similar to AR-XCR and can be made relatively quickly + Similar ergos and functions of AR-XCR - Requires extended BHO (hopefully the same one used in the AR-XCR and AR-XCR-M) - May require longer Mag catch (maybe the one on the XCR-M?) - User becomes reliant on CZ to release these magazines in his country. Will be incompatible with AK and STANAG mags.

This thread will be edited to become the build log for the winner of the poll. As it was in the last thread, I expect to have major CAD work done by the summer, and something built in metal by the winter. Your opinions are welcome!

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navalbeaver

· #4 · 5 mo ago

AR mag lower, AR FCG, built in 1913.... if you're taking requests.

I'm out of the 762 game but a 545 ak lower with AR fcg and 1913 would be sweet.

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navalbeaver

· #33 · 5 mo ago

WRT Lingle.

I asked them about a xcr lower awhile back they stated I was not the first to do so. I got one of their stribog lowers(the one before the current generation). The bho(the extended hbi) was a little finicky and seemed to come down to the pivot pin and how far it was in. It didn't have abnormal play but if I held it in all the way the bho worked great. I ended up getting an A3 that's been great.
I do have the latest version of the ghm9 lower and it's nice but even after asking about psa mags working in it, they're all real tight. I've sanded down the front tab on a couple and they work fine but not real happy I have to fit all my mags. The magpul mags are good.

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navalbeaver

· #34 · 5 mo ago

Chowwow,

Is the .2" for the height? That's been talked about before and Alex mentioned it way back about the lower would have to have been taller with AR triggers

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