Just ordered a Millett DMS-1 for mine. I voted other.
Scope
Just wondering what people are liking on their XCRs.
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On the XCR the sight rail sits about 1/2" higher (in relation to the buttstock) than an AR. So I find it kind of annoying having sights that are designed for AR's on my XRC. So IMO you should rule out anything that has a lot of height built into it, like the EOtec and ACOG. These types of AR specific sights sit really high on the gun. So you are pretty much looking for a tube type optic that you can mount low. Then you just decide what range you want the optic to be suited for. I chose a IOR 4x24 M1. It's very light weight and is idea for anything 25m+ range. I would have gone with a similar tactical Leupold but I got the IOR for half the $$$. Any good 1x dot sight like the Aimpoint I consider a 100m or less optic, that is idea for urban and CQB. But to me the XCR is just a little too heavy and is certainly too accurate to use such a short range optic.
I have an eotech on mine now but I am thinking about mounting some sort of scope on it-maybe a trijicon.
David
David
Don't believe that until you try it. I have no problem with my TA31F ACOG on my XCR with stock folding tube.On the XCR the sight rail sits about 1/2" higher (in relation to the buttstock) than an AR. So I find it kind of annoying having sights that are designed for AR's on my XRC. So IMO you should rule out anything that has a lot of height built into it, like the EOtec and ACOG. These types of AR specific sights sit really high on the gun. So you are pretty much looking for a tube type optic that you can mount low. Then you just decide what range you want the optic to be suited for. I chose a IOR 4x24 M1. It's very light weight and is idea for anything 25m+ range. I would have gone with a similar tactical Leupold but I got the IOR for half the $$$. Any good 1x dot sight like the Aimpoint I consider a 100m or less optic, that is idea for urban and CQB. But to me the XCR is just a little too heavy and is certainly too accurate to use suck a short range optic.
I have a Trijicon Accupoint TR21R on mine. Love it.
Aimpoint right now. It's about as good as it gets on a carbine.
Still, I'd like to have some dedicated magnifying optics. I'm going to try and score a S&B shortdot...somehow...
Still, I'd like to have some dedicated magnifying optics. I'm going to try and score a S&B shortdot...somehow...
Aimpoint M4 - I like the 8 years battery life on 1 AA battery & the quality of the product for the price.
I have tried it. I own one of the first XCR's and have tried many sights on it. I'm not saying an ACOG will not work, you will just have to have your face planted 1/2" higher on the stock to get it aligned. If you are use to a certain cheek weld, you want to maintain that on all your rifles. I also hate mounting any optics on top of an AR carry handle. Maybe I'm too picky but I think given the option most people would agree with me.Don't believe that until you try it. I have no problem with my TA31F ACOG on my XCR with stock folding tube.On the XCR the sight rail sits about 1/2" higher (in relation to the buttstock) than an AR. So I find it kind of annoying having sights that are designed for AR's on my XRC. So IMO you should rule out anything that has a lot of height built into it, like the EOtec and ACOG. These types of AR specific sights sit really high on the gun. So you are pretty much looking for a tube type optic that you can mount low. Then you just decide what range you want the optic to be suited for. I chose a IOR 4x24 M1. It's very light weight and is idea for anything 25m+ range. I would have gone with a similar tactical Leupold but I got the IOR for half the $$$. Any good 1x dot sight like the Aimpoint I consider a 100m or less optic, that is idea for urban and CQB. But to me the XCR is just a little too heavy and is certainly too accurate to use suck a short range optic.
Mounting an optic on top of an AR15/M16 carry handle is easy, but it is much harder to keep the optic zeroed as in my experience it has a tendancy to move.
I like the Aimpoint and Leoupold it just depends on the situation you want to shoot in.
I like the Aimpoint and Leoupold it just depends on the situation you want to shoot in.
That was the good news for me. The XCR was my first ever rifle of this type so I had no experience with cheek welds on assault/battle style rifles to overcome. The Robinson Arms websight talks about how to hold the XCR and that it's diffferent because of the narrow stock (obviously not applicable to any of the wider style stocks). My shooting with it is more akin to the flash sight picture and quick trigger pull of shooting IDPA than the deliberate taking a good breath, slowly squeezing the trigger, and having the seer release surprise you of target shooting. For me I had no problem with the ACOG. I can also understand how having the same cheek weld with a number of rifles is important and were I to replace the stock with anything it would be something like the magpul or one of the other newly announced adjustable ones.I have tried it. I own one of the first XCR's and have tried many sights on it. I'm not saying an ACOG will not work, you will just have to have your face planted 1/2" higher on the stock to get it aligned. If you are use to a certain cheek weld, you want to maintain that on all your rifles. I also hate mounting any optics on top of an AR carry handle. Maybe I'm too picky but I think given the option most people would agree with me.
JMO, but I like the Eotech and the Reflex.
Eotechs are known for there sturdiness and reliability, and Aimpoints, well alot of military use them as standard equipment, so they seem to do well in combat situations.
I have an IOR 1.4-4x. Shot it this weekend. Like it a lot. Covers everything near and far. Wish I would have had this for my carbine class.
I still wanna see some pics of the xcr with the ior prizm ;D
I like my aimpoint, but the eotech is very nice too-just a matter of preference.
As for scopes for the xcr, the ior 1.1-4 prizm mentions is sweet, so is the leupy 1.5-5 and nightforce 1-4 or 2.5-10...
I like my aimpoint, but the eotech is very nice too-just a matter of preference.
As for scopes for the xcr, the ior 1.1-4 prizm mentions is sweet, so is the leupy 1.5-5 and nightforce 1-4 or 2.5-10...
I'll try to get to it soon magik... maybe in a couple of weeks when the Mrs. is out of town and I can focus on some photos.
I have the Eotech 512 on my XCR.
It's fast and I can group it nice at 100 yards from a rest... I really need to start practicing without a rest and see what I can do.
I have a Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20 MR/T M2 on my custom AR and it's awesome but I think the XCR is better suited for a CQB set up. IMHO
It's fast and I can group it nice at 100 yards from a rest... I really need to start practicing without a rest and see what I can do.
I have a Leupold Mark 4 1.5-5x20 MR/T M2 on my custom AR and it's awesome but I think the XCR is better suited for a CQB set up. IMHO
I'm finally home for a week and checked the height of the TA31 ACOG on my XCR and FAL. What I've been calling a cheek weld is actually more of a chin weld. Following the directions for mounting the rifle on the Robarms website I'm naturally looking right straight down the top rail and straight through the centerline of the ACOG with the side of my chin against the top tube on the stock. There's no fiddling around, it's just right there.
On my Weatherby the stock is much thicker and I find I have to cant my head over pivoting on my cheek to see straight down the scope.
The big difference is shooting off the bench. I haven't quite figured out how I will do that with the XCR or FAL yet but will play with all of them tomorrow at the range.
On my Weatherby the stock is much thicker and I find I have to cant my head over pivoting on my cheek to see straight down the scope.
The big difference is shooting off the bench. I haven't quite figured out how I will do that with the XCR or FAL yet but will play with all of them tomorrow at the range.
Trijicon TA31F on mine. Love the ACOG!
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