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Interesting

.....Looks like Obozo having naptime and letting the bigboys in Texas do the adult work.
 

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This could be really interesting, in a train wreck sort of way....

If Texas has a crisis requiring an armed response, are there enough Guardsmen to respond? Here in Florida, a major portion of the Guard has been called up to active duty.

Can the governor ask the militia to respond?

THAT would change the tenor of the debate in this country.

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From what I have heard and read secondhand, TX, OK, NH and several other states have already declared sovereignty from the U.S. Fed gov. This in its self is interesting to say the least.
Can the governor ask the militia to respond?
If the fed gov does not inter seed in helping the state out then yes the governor can call out the Militia. If he is using it to protect the state from possibly invasion from a foreign invader that would also affect the U.S. on a national level.

I think as the president terms moves forward you will see more states doing the same as NH, TX and OK, but you will also see more Legestration introduce in congress and the house that will also try to take away the rights of the states as well. Before to long we may have another revolution on our hands, this time it will not be against the mother country it will be again ourselves and if you thought the lose of life was bad then, think about it know, with the weapons we have. Plus every crack pot terrorist will take advantage of that and try to bring about the Jihad, so we would be fighting two fronts, while trying to make the country whole again.

These things worry and excite me, worry because I don't want my daughter to see what could happen if a revolution started i.e. death, destruction, so close to home etc. On the other hand this is exciting because we the people will not sit ideally by while the county is slowly changed from a country of free men and women to a socialist republic controlled by someone that will take away our rights.

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
 

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Now wait a minute...

"...the four Militia Groups that are here in Texas will be put on alert this evening."

Exactly which militia groups are we talking about here? Something like the South Texas Light Infantry?

Phalanx - what organization is your brother in law associated with that he was called out for?
 

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I was referring not to the national guard, but the Militia as defined by the 2nd Amendment.

Sorry for the confusion.

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I try to stay well-connected with Texas politics and I have not heard anything about us declaring sovereignty from Washington. The only thing I have heard is that there is a need to prepare our border in case there is a large influx of refugees from the gang war south of the border. I think this is where the guard being put on alert stems from. However, I have yet to see any about this other than Dan Patrick's mention of it.
 

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Here's the link to the actual report on Fox

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491964,00.html

As drug cartels continue to terrorize Mexico, Texas officials are planning for the worst-case scenario: how to respond if the violence spills over the border, and what to do if thousands of Mexicans seek refuge in the United States.

Katherine Cesinger, a spokeswoman for Texas Gov. Rick Perry, said a multi-agency contingency plan is being developed, and it will focus primarily on law enforcement issues, including how to handle an influx of Mexicans fleeing violence.

"At this point, what we're focusing on is spillover violence," Cesinger told FOXNews.com Thursday. "The immediate concern, if any, would be that."


The governor is asking for plans and contingencies which may or may not include use of TX National Guard troops.

That's it.

There is NO secession by any state
There is no mass call up

I wonder if the same folks who will applaud will be the same ones who raised merry paranoid hell about the Iowa NG training exercise? Or is constitutional law adherence circumstantially variable ?
 

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My bad, I was mistaken, the states that I mentioned were going to advise the gov that they could/would if they thought that the laws passed by the congress and house were unfair.
 

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1redgmc ,He is a Sargent in The Texas DPS , State Troopers.
I was talking to him today when he came to see my Wife ,his Sister.
Texas called out her NG ,the first time that ever happened there.
NG ,as in State , Texas has a large Militia commitment ,it always has.
She also has her own Army ,so to speak , along with a lot of other groups ,being that at heart she is a Country.
My Brother in law ,Ron ,said in todays tense environment it was deemed better to use the Guard than calling out Her Army's.
Doing that may send a wrong signal to some who are on edge right now.
People say that Texas had lost that spirit ,it seems to be there big time and growing.
A lot of People are moveing there right now from all over , Texas seems to be the key link they are looking at as makeing the move to restore the American Republic.
Me ,i believe it will be Alabama or Montana , the folks i know from there are VERY pissed right now.

Mrchem ,i don't know what your keeping up with , Texas always has had a Declaration of Sovereignty.
I can throw a rock and hit Texas from my house so i know whats happening there.
Perry isnt in charge as much as you would be lead to believe.
Old Family's run Texas ,and Hutchinson is the voice of that State.
I was born near Abilene , and i still have family there and Waco.
Dont fool yourself into thinking Texas isn't doing something.
 

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Fox News ran an article this morning stating that NH was among 25 states who were preparing to declare soveigrnty. I caught the tail end of the article but they had a senior elected official (I think the Gov) from NH on saying they simply weren't going to take the Fed's BS anymore. I'll try to find a link...but there may be something to this after all...
 

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There are no states that are seceding from the Union, not happening.

There is no capability under the Constitution for any individual state to unilaterally secede from the Union, settled law under Texas V White 1868

http://supct.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0074_0700_ZO.html

Cuts both ways, there is no way for a state to be excluded from the Union.

In THEORY a mutual agreement could be agreed between both the individual state and the rest but to even do that at the very least a constitutional amendment would have to raised and passed then it would have to stand scuriny in the SC etc etc.

What some folks are getting mixed up on are that several Republican state governors have stated they do not want to accept all of the federal "stimulus" package as they come with strings on unemployment insurance.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/fir...ernors-refuses-federal-unemployment-benefits/
 

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There are no states that are seceding from the Union, not happening.

There is no capability under the Constitution for any individual state to unilaterally secede from the Union,
Oh!

Gotcha. Didn't think about that.......

In that case, there's no 'economic stimulus bill' either, since there's no capacity under the Constitution for that either.

The easiest way to get me to move back to my Homeland would be for Texas to succeed. They could bill it as "a retirement community for Patriots".
 

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Mrchem ,i don't know what your keeping up with , Texas always has had a Declaration of Sovereignty.
I can throw a rock and hit Texas from my house so i know whats happening there.
Perry isnt in charge as much as you would be lead to believe.
Old Family's run Texas ,and Hutchinson is the voice of that State.
I was born near Abilene , and i still have family there and Waco.
Dont fool yourself into thinking Texas isn't doing something.
Phalanx, you need to brush up on your Texas history. Unfortunately, Texas has no more or less right to declare sovereignty than any other state. Somehow, this notion has been perpetuated over the years by the myth that Texas made some special deal with the US when it became a state. It did not. In fact, this was one of topics we discussed in my History of Texas law class.

Hopefully, you do realize the the Governor's office is one of the weakest in Texas government. The speaker of the house really wields the lion's share of power so of course Perry doesn't run the government like in other states.

I know Texas is doing something but it is merely preparing for a worst-case scenario with refugees. Hundreds of resolutions are made each session. However, they are not law or even binding for the most part.
 

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'Shrug' Good for Texas, call up your guard and stick them on the border. The Texas State Gov is well within its rights to do so if they want. Now as I understand it though the Texas Gov can't have anyone in the guard take any action across the border without the Fed's say so, but thats just my understanding.

If they do actually activate the Texas NG I hope they can pay for it, because calling up the NG on the States orders means the State foots the bill.

Personaly I think all the States should call up the guard and have them march to Washington, but thats just me.
 

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March to Washington? Hell, I will drive them myself!
 
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