As I said, I am opening this up for any discusion you want on triggers.
Its not a vote. If you want to vote on single stage trigger, go to the Rosinsha Arms section. As the standard is the two stage, the vote there is only for those wanting a single stage, so that RA has some idea of how popular that option is and can decide if its worht putting hte time and money into it (Alex offered to consider it).
So, starting this off someone insterted an opinion (actualy severl) in that which were not votes.
One said tht curretn was not a two stage trigger. I say balderdash.
It has the take up before you hit the main sear, and then it releases. I am not arguing RA decision to go that route, its not my cup of tea, but it was Alex's decision to make and I respect that (keeping in mind that this was originally a combat rifle design, not a civilian AR market gun (oops, I mean semi auto sports market).
Now I have no problem with those who are used to and like the two stage trigger. I don't, I grew up shooting bolt action rifles that had a single stage trigger, and were consistent. I like it, I shoot it a lot better. If I don't want the gun to fire, I don't have my finger on the trigger.
There seems to be a lot of myth about the two stage. I think its simply a military safety issue, for non combat situations where you don't drop and set a weapon off (big difference in being in the woods and brushing something soft and knocking around in a truck or armored vehicle. And in all of this is the fact that those weapons are at least three burst, if not fully auotomcis. The consequences to an accident are severe.
Also, you will be doing a lot of patrol combat where you have your finger on the trigger, ready to shoot, but not for sure you are going to have to. I can see that working as a safety issue. You need quick reactions and the safety is going to be off.
For my use, no.
The most accurate one I ever shot was a target rifle with two triggers, one to set it, and the other a very fine low pressure trigger. That was for under total controlled indoor target range conditions.
The next best is the single stage (in my opinion)
So, this is where you get to rant and rave about triggers, chime in, have fun.
Personally I find the following a lot of nonsense.
quote:
The two-stage trigger groups offer a substantial enhancement of semi-automatic accuracy potential over factory single-stage triggers for AR-15 Series rifles.
The factory single stage trigger mechanism releases the hammer (firing the weapon) after a steady squeeze is applied by the trigger finger. This trigger squeeze requires steadily increasing pressure to overcome the sear spring and mechanical resistance. The "creep" inherent in the factory single stage trigger requires that the shooter take time to "walk" through the trigger pull and find the "let-off point" in order to achieve accurate fire. The two-stage trigger mechanism release the hammer (firing the weapon) after two distinct amounts of spring and mechanical resistance are overcome by the trigger finger. The Initial stage of resistance encountered with this design feels light and is relatively long - approximately I/8 of an inch. The second stage of resistance feels noticeably greater but is of very short duration. The result is an extremely predictable, consistent, "crisp" trigger pull; semi-automatic fire is both quicker and more accurate because the first stage is quickly overcome and the second stage is crisp and predictable. unquote
Its not a vote. If you want to vote on single stage trigger, go to the Rosinsha Arms section. As the standard is the two stage, the vote there is only for those wanting a single stage, so that RA has some idea of how popular that option is and can decide if its worht putting hte time and money into it (Alex offered to consider it).
So, starting this off someone insterted an opinion (actualy severl) in that which were not votes.
One said tht curretn was not a two stage trigger. I say balderdash.
It has the take up before you hit the main sear, and then it releases. I am not arguing RA decision to go that route, its not my cup of tea, but it was Alex's decision to make and I respect that (keeping in mind that this was originally a combat rifle design, not a civilian AR market gun (oops, I mean semi auto sports market).
Now I have no problem with those who are used to and like the two stage trigger. I don't, I grew up shooting bolt action rifles that had a single stage trigger, and were consistent. I like it, I shoot it a lot better. If I don't want the gun to fire, I don't have my finger on the trigger.
There seems to be a lot of myth about the two stage. I think its simply a military safety issue, for non combat situations where you don't drop and set a weapon off (big difference in being in the woods and brushing something soft and knocking around in a truck or armored vehicle. And in all of this is the fact that those weapons are at least three burst, if not fully auotomcis. The consequences to an accident are severe.
Also, you will be doing a lot of patrol combat where you have your finger on the trigger, ready to shoot, but not for sure you are going to have to. I can see that working as a safety issue. You need quick reactions and the safety is going to be off.
For my use, no.
The most accurate one I ever shot was a target rifle with two triggers, one to set it, and the other a very fine low pressure trigger. That was for under total controlled indoor target range conditions.
The next best is the single stage (in my opinion)
So, this is where you get to rant and rave about triggers, chime in, have fun.
Personally I find the following a lot of nonsense.
quote:
The two-stage trigger groups offer a substantial enhancement of semi-automatic accuracy potential over factory single-stage triggers for AR-15 Series rifles.
The factory single stage trigger mechanism releases the hammer (firing the weapon) after a steady squeeze is applied by the trigger finger. This trigger squeeze requires steadily increasing pressure to overcome the sear spring and mechanical resistance. The "creep" inherent in the factory single stage trigger requires that the shooter take time to "walk" through the trigger pull and find the "let-off point" in order to achieve accurate fire. The two-stage trigger mechanism release the hammer (firing the weapon) after two distinct amounts of spring and mechanical resistance are overcome by the trigger finger. The Initial stage of resistance encountered with this design feels light and is relatively long - approximately I/8 of an inch. The second stage of resistance feels noticeably greater but is of very short duration. The result is an extremely predictable, consistent, "crisp" trigger pull; semi-automatic fire is both quicker and more accurate because the first stage is quickly overcome and the second stage is crisp and predictable. unquote