A while back I posted what would be a good "battle rifle" . I have narrowed my choices down to a few, but Im still doing my homework. Im staying away from the .223 round(which eliminated the AR,SIG556,M4 platforms I was considering) Galils were my #1 choice but there outrageously expensive. So forget that. ..that much I do know.
I have owned AK's in the past, unfortunantly I sold the ones I had, but I never owned a FAL.
I know groupings with the AK are not the greatest in the world, when I had mine I was able to hold about 3-4" groups at 100 yards on the average with surplus ammo and further out the groups started opening up considerably.
I hear that FAL's will hold better groups from reports to 2" at 100 and 3-4" at 200 yards. Again, I wont hold these reports to be true, its only what I have heard and read.
The more I think about this, I am after reliability and ruggedness and the first 2 that come to mind are the AK and the FAL. Accuracy is an issue but reliability and ruggedness is more important to me.
The AK is robust and can take a licking(speaking first hand here)..from those of you who own FALS what can you say in regards to that?
--Both have lethal knockdown power.
--Which of the 2 have issues with spare part avaiability? --or is that even an issue with either rifle. Been away from AK's for a while,so I dont know whats going to happen in 08 when the bans start up again on this and that. I hear that AK parts will no longer be importable if the ban sets again. I fear the FAL will suffer the same issues. I beleive however the DSA FAL is a 100% MADE IN USA rifle..I dont know..
--AK ammo is cheaper than .308--is the FAL choosy about its ammo??
--I like the sites of the FAL better than the AK
--Which is easier to take down and work on? I know the AK is childsplay....What about the FAL?
--Which is more controlable when firing--the AK or FAL? I know about the AK.
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Here is what Im looking at ----
--Im looking at trying to find an Arsenal SAM-7 AK rifle(milled receiver)
--Or the DSA SA58 either with standard barrel or the tactical model.
--XCR in 7.62x39
--Still not ruling out the M14(its big though) not handy like the AK or a tactical FAL.
If I did choose the XCR in 7.62x39---- Can it take a licking like the AK or FAL?
Can you throw mud in the receiver,submerge it in dirt,run over it with a truck--will it still go BANG? An AK will and I think a FAL will also. I knw from what I have heard here that it is more accurate than both the AK and the FAL.
What concerns me about the XCR in 7.62x39--
---What about parts avaiability down the road lets say 4-5 years from now maybe longer,are the parts universal?. For instance --example--a Hungarian AK gas rod will work in any other made AK?
---If the rifle needs work that I cannot do--is it easy to find someone to work on it? Customer support?
--What parst will more than likely need replacing on a XCR down the road and will they be avaialble or do you buy the spares now?
What would the best rifle to have if the SHTF.......
Im looking ahead here...what would be the best battle rifle from the choices I have narrowed it down to?
thanks for looking and look forward to your input.
I have owned AK's in the past, unfortunantly I sold the ones I had, but I never owned a FAL.
I know groupings with the AK are not the greatest in the world, when I had mine I was able to hold about 3-4" groups at 100 yards on the average with surplus ammo and further out the groups started opening up considerably.
I hear that FAL's will hold better groups from reports to 2" at 100 and 3-4" at 200 yards. Again, I wont hold these reports to be true, its only what I have heard and read.
The more I think about this, I am after reliability and ruggedness and the first 2 that come to mind are the AK and the FAL. Accuracy is an issue but reliability and ruggedness is more important to me.
The AK is robust and can take a licking(speaking first hand here)..from those of you who own FALS what can you say in regards to that?
--Both have lethal knockdown power.
--Which of the 2 have issues with spare part avaiability? --or is that even an issue with either rifle. Been away from AK's for a while,so I dont know whats going to happen in 08 when the bans start up again on this and that. I hear that AK parts will no longer be importable if the ban sets again. I fear the FAL will suffer the same issues. I beleive however the DSA FAL is a 100% MADE IN USA rifle..I dont know..
--AK ammo is cheaper than .308--is the FAL choosy about its ammo??
--I like the sites of the FAL better than the AK
--Which is easier to take down and work on? I know the AK is childsplay....What about the FAL?
--Which is more controlable when firing--the AK or FAL? I know about the AK.
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Here is what Im looking at ----
--Im looking at trying to find an Arsenal SAM-7 AK rifle(milled receiver)
--Or the DSA SA58 either with standard barrel or the tactical model.
--XCR in 7.62x39
--Still not ruling out the M14(its big though) not handy like the AK or a tactical FAL.
If I did choose the XCR in 7.62x39---- Can it take a licking like the AK or FAL?
Can you throw mud in the receiver,submerge it in dirt,run over it with a truck--will it still go BANG? An AK will and I think a FAL will also. I knw from what I have heard here that it is more accurate than both the AK and the FAL.
What concerns me about the XCR in 7.62x39--
---What about parts avaiability down the road lets say 4-5 years from now maybe longer,are the parts universal?. For instance --example--a Hungarian AK gas rod will work in any other made AK?
---If the rifle needs work that I cannot do--is it easy to find someone to work on it? Customer support?
--What parst will more than likely need replacing on a XCR down the road and will they be avaialble or do you buy the spares now?
What would the best rifle to have if the SHTF.......
Im looking ahead here...what would be the best battle rifle from the choices I have narrowed it down to?
thanks for looking and look forward to your input.