[falnovice]

Hello everyone. I see some familar faces here, wonderful.
I am looking at buying a XCR from my preferred gunshop that has had one, and only one, for most of the year. I spoke to him earlier and he said he would bring the price down after the holidays when he tries to move inventory in a "end of the year" sale. Apparently nobody has been interested in it. ???
Anyway, it appears to be the folding tube stock version, I don't remember if it has sights or not. Currently asking 1,400.
What is a fair price?
Is there any issues with an "older" XCR? They have had it nearly a year i believe.
Magpul PMAGs function in these guns?

Thanks,
Falnovice.

 

[cavegeo]

You can go to Robarms web page an check the price I believe $1400 is a fair price. They have made one major upgrade in the past year with a adjustable gas block you could use that as a point to help in your negotiations with the dealer.

http://www.robarm.com

 

[ny32182]

That rifle probably has the old style gas system and firing pin. I'd want them to come off that price a little, but its not a terrible price. I believe the gas system upgrade will cost you about $100. Not sure about the firing pin. If you can get them down to $1250 I'd say you're looking at a good price.

 

[Aussie Arms]

Welcome to the Forum, FAL.

As previously mentioned that "Older Style" XCR probably has both the old style gas system, bolt and firing pin. The rifle doesn't come standard with sights so if it does have them they are an after market addition. You sound bewildered when you say "no body has been interested in it". The main reason for this I think is that it's not a cheap rifle, and it's also know too well known, so the majority of people who are uninformed will steer clear from it. All you have to do is take your time and read though the posts on this site to become 'comfortable" with your reasons to purchase an XCR.

Price, $1400 with a folding tube stock is about the current rate for a current version rifle without any accessories. If it's a heavy barrel you can add another $50.00 onto it's value. That being said, the rifle your dealer has is probably out of date (check this forum for pics of the new gas system) and if you wanted to bring it up to current specs it would cost you about another $85.00 in bolt and firing pin and another $100.00 in a new gas block, plus shipping. So all in all it would cost you another $200.00 on top of your purchase to bring it up to date if you did the work yourself.

If your dealer is going to "unload" that rifle at the end of the year, being an "Old Model", I personally wouldn't offer him any more than $1200.00 for it. Yes he will take a "little" loss on it, but it's either him or you. Who would you rather see loose money : He can claim the "small" loss on his tax.

To answer your last question, yes these rifle in my experience function flawlessly with the MagPul P-Mag. I haven't used anyting else in mine to date, and it's never missed a beat.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask this forum. As I have heard to said before: "The only stupid question is a question not asked".

Later!

 

[falnovice]

Thanks. I was kinda holding out for the Masada but that could be months from now....and the XCR is available now.....and I might be able to get a deal on it. ;D
I've heard about the less than stellar triggers, but I am not too concerned.
How about accuracy? I mean, on average with cheap ammo.....not a sandbagged custom load on a modded rifle.

 

[EricCartmann]

Get the XCR, XCR has a lot of great reviews from current owners. Masada is not available and there is no quarantee if the Masada will even work. So you might be waiting for nothing.

 

[gr8santini]

Magpul PMAGS work great in the XCR.

 

[falnovice]

True about the Masada. I hope Magpul really runs it through the wringer before releasing it to the public. They have shown innovation, but no previous firearm manufacturing makes me pause. I would not at all be surprised to see a later-than-expected release, followed by a handful of issues. It is the way it goes.
The FN SCAR, on the other hand, I expect to work right as soon as it hits the market. FN has a great reputation for making serious firearms. I would be very disappointed if they have more than minor teething issues in the civilian market.
Don't even get me started on the SIG556s.......grrrrr...

 

[gunner69]

The XCR is like a Timex watch.... it just keeps tickin'. You will definetly like the caliber change options, which DO come with upgrade options. :duh:.

 

[aziator]

As far as the firing pin/bolt being out of date you can check the Robarm website and they have a serial number list of guns that need to be sent in for the upgrade, I don't think they are charging to have it done.

 

[EricCartmann]

As far as the firing pin/bolt being out of date you can check the Robarm website and they have a serial number list of guns that need to be sent in for the upgrade, I don't think they are charging to have it done.

where is this on the website?

 

[Aussie Arms]

You can find the cost of the new parts on the web site, but I have never seen a recal for them.

 

[aziator]

Maybe the recall was in the early days, I don't remember paying when I sent my trigger and hammer in. I sent the bolt in seperately for the FP upgrade. Here is the list...

http://www.robarm.com/XCR_Upgrades.htm

 

[Bravo]

Correct.

Mine was between the first two numbers (which I notice are out of sequence LOL!) and it was all done for free.

Heck, when that all went down, I sent in the lower (the hammer / disconnector was before the bolt). Alex swapped me out a shorter stock and sent the new parts installed with a decent trigger pull.

Later was the bolt, again no charge, and although I was hesitant to mess with anything that had done well with 3K (at that time) I sent it in anyway. It's been great since then too.

 

[EricCartmann]

Maybe the recall was in the early days, I don't remember paying when I sent my trigger and hammer in. I sent the bolt in seperately for the FP upgrade. Here is the list...

http://www.robarm.com/XCR_Upgrades.htm

cool thanks for the link. Looks like none are in the 1000 range so I am good to go.

 

[aziator]

Correct.

Mine was between the first two numbers (which I notice are out of sequence LOL!) and it was all done for free.

Heck, when that all went down, I sent in the lower (the hammer / disconnector was before the bolt). Alex swapped me out a shorter stock and sent the new parts installed with a decent trigger pull.

Later was the bolt, again no charge, and although I was hesitant to mess with anything that had done well with 3K (at that time) I sent it in anyway. It's been great since then too.

I think I was the first to report a slam fire to Alex, called him from the range and told him I was getting 2 shots on one trigger pull. It usually happened on the last few rounds in the mag. He initially sent me new trigger parts but I did send the bolt in a few weeks later when they came up with the fix for the FP.

 

[gunner69]

Hmmmmm.... two shot burst! Now that sounds interesting. >