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OK, I am ready to take down all the orders in one place, so I can update everyone that wants one and figure out how much material I need. If you want one then follow this link, [email protected]
cut a paste this in your heading XCR FCH and in the body tell me how many you want and what your address is.
Do all that and I will have you down. I'll let you know when it is time for funds.


Well guys I've finished drawing up the specs for a folding charging handle ala SLR style and I have a machinist (mountainman on the FALFiles) to make them. I'll have my sample here soon and I'll take plenty of pics. Now, they're going to be made from aluminum, because for obvious reasons we don't want a steel handle slamming closed on a aluminum receiver. In order for him to have the aluminum anodized he needs 15 or more people committed to purchasing one, or else he'll just paint them. So how about it, who would be interested in one?

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- This will be a complete unit made of 7075 aluminum, the lug will be 4140 pre-hardened steel, as will the knob.
- Price looks like it will be $73, and that's for the entire unit with anodizing and shipping included.
- I changed the design making the slide as short as possible without exposing charging handle track cut into the receiver, so it should work with ezed's adapter. Either way, there's no way to go shorter without leaving an exposed slot into the internals.

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Here are some CAD's of the prototype (still tweaking the handle CAD). I didn't list any of the dimensions since they may be tweaked once I get my test sample:




And here's some pics of a modified SLR handle that I found in the parts bin:



 

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Any idea on the price each also any 'rough' prelim pics or drawings? Thanks.
 

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Any idea on the price each also any 'rough' prelim pics or drawings? Thanks.
I'm getting word on price. Here's a shitty pic I took using a surplus SLR handle. The finished product will nestle into the space between the end of the picatinny rail and beginning of the CH track, making the the height of the charging handle when folded only slightly higher than the rail:

 

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I might be interested... need more pics and specs though. Is it tension held down? What is needed for the change out? Price? Thanks :)
 

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I just looked at the XCR charging handle and I have some thoughts to this. Please do not take it wrong but I think you may need to consider them. No offense meant.

1- Rail covers may restrict getting to the handle to raise it.
2- Currently it looks like the OEM is plastic held on by a pin to a metal post. Will your piece replace the post?
3- How about making a smaller more slim line replacement for the plastic piece too?
4- Make a one piece unit that is smaller and skinnier.
5- How to remove the existing post? I have not tried or investigated but this could come into play in installing your design.
 

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I just looked at the XCR charging handle and I have some thoughts to this. Please do not take it wrong but I think you may need to consider them. No offense meant.

1- Rail covers may restrict getting to the handle to raise it.
2- Currently it looks like the OEM is plastic held on by a pin to a metal post. Will your piece replace the post?
3- How about making a smaller more slim line replacement for the plastic piece too?
4- Make a one piece unit that is smaller and skinnier.
5- How to remove the existing post? I have not tried or investigated but this could come into play in installing your design.
Okay, I guess I should have been more clear originally. This IS a complete unit. As in you will get everything you need and won't be using ANY of the factory parts and none of the parts will be plastic. Here's a pic from mountainman:

 

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OK. I am interested depending on the price. If it comes down to a choice of anodized versus painting I prefer anodized but can paint it myself with CERAKOTE.

Nice looking piece. But if you can check if rail covers will interfere when you get the prototype. Thanks.
 

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One other stupid thought. But can it be made shorter so as it does not hit the ACR sling mount when ezed's adapter is used?
 

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OK. I am interested depending on the price. If it comes down to a choice of anodized versus painting I prefer anodized but can paint it myself with CERAKOTE.

Nice looking piece. But if you can check if rail covers will interfere when you get the prototype. Thanks.
I'm fairly certain that rail covers shouldn't be an issue, but I'll try it with a few different covers. Price should be about $75 for the whole unit with anodizing.
 

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One other stupid thought. But can it be made shorter so as it does not hit the ACR sling mount when ezed's adapter is used?
I'll take some measurements for that, but it shouldn't be a problem for him to shorten it.
 

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Ill buy one for sure. But Ill be gone from the 26 till thanks giving.
 

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Thanks. Sorry to be a pain. But I have another question............. :duh:

So a couple of times I had to take a rubber mallet to the charging handle because a steel case was stuck in the chamber. Myself or someone may have to do this again with your handle installed, just asking if you thought of this or is there a way/place to hit and not break the handle. Other than putting a brass rod down the bore on a potential live round and pogoing does not work.

Sorry to be a pain.
 

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I know that it is seldom if ever used, but does you design incorporate the same forward assist function of the original?
 

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I am he. I plan on making these out of 7075. If an order big enough for anodizing goes through then they are $73 a pc and that includes S&H. The lug will be 4140 pre hardened steel. The knob will also be the same material. I plan on working closely with AEnemaBay to get the rail fit and everything just right. Basically these have a much slimmer profile then the knobbed charging handle. On these the knob is folded down and when you need to charge then you move it up ( for those not familiar with the FAL para) The only thing with me is that you need to be patient. I don't have a CNC and everything takes me a while to make. Is there anyone on here with an XCR close to 32738 zip code? If you need forard assist then that will not happen with this handle, I will be working on something else for that.
 

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Thanks. Sorry to be a pain. But I have another question............. :duh:

So a couple of times I had to take a rubber mallet to the charging handle because a steel case was stuck in the chamber. Myself or someone may have to do this again with your handle installed, just asking if you thought of this or is there a way/place to hit and not break the handle. Other than putting a brass rod down the bore on a potential live round and pogoing does not work.

Sorry to be a pain.
I won't know the answer to that for sure until I try it. I've pogo'd a few FAL's with folding charging handles (where I got the design idea from) and they've all been fine. But at the same time those were made of steel.
 

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Watching with very peeked interest......
 

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I am he. I plan on making these out of 7075. If an order big enough for anodizing goes through then they are a pc and that includes S&H. The lug will be 4140 pre hardened steel. The knob will also be the same material. I plan on working closely with AEnemaBay to get the rail fit and everything just right. Basically these have a much slimmer profile then the knobbed charging handle. On these the knob is folded down and when you need to charge then you move it up ( for those not familiar with the FAL para) The only thing with me is that you need to be patient. I don't have a CNC and everything takes me a while to make. Is there anyone on here with an XCR close to 32738 zip code? If you need forard assist then that will not happen with this handle, I will be working on something else for that.
You are about 3-3.5 hours North of me. I do believe though that there are a couple (at least one) around Cape Canaveral. If they do not chime in, let me know.
 
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